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    • good grief! where did you get that war and peace defence from....everything inc the kitchen sink, 90% of it utter irrelevant twaddle! a claimform is not a LETTER OF CLAIM. that usually comes about 1-2 moths before they request northants bulk to raise a court claim. it will be typically from a solicitor, headed letter of claim and contain a reply pack wanting to know things like I&E etc  thread title updated dx
    • Thank you very much for your help. To answer your two questions:  1. I did not send a CPR request when the Claim Form arrived. 2. They did send a claim form, in March 2023. This is the document from which I copied the particulars of their claim.  
    • Thanks. That's a lot to wade through.  Will get on to it. Two other quick questions. Did you send them a CPR request when the claim form arrived? Are you sure they didn't send a Letter of Claim before they sued you?
    • Hi there, Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for –  1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260 Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
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Hi again guys, been having great success so far with these debts (will try to find a link my other post which is about over a year old to give you some context)

 

So the quick back story

 

Lowell owned the debt,

bpo was acting on their behalf

sent a CCA request

bpo passed it back to lowell after not responding,

lowell have then ask their legal team (phahaha) lowell solicitors to start court proceeding,

 

rang them for abit of fun

informed them that no cca has been sent,

they have now supplied me with the request but it is unreadable

(will update this post with a picture when I can)

 

Because it is unreadable is it enforceable? It's crazy blurry you have to guess what words say

 

I am also going to start a complaint as they have passed the debt on that was in dispute (no acknowledgement of the debt what so ever)

 

In fact blurry is a bad way to describe it, you can read the larger letters but the smaller print (90% of the page) looks like it been written in a ink cartridge fountain pen on a piece of kitchen roll

 

Edit: I would rather not just ignore it as it is very close to becoming statue barred (a few months) and would rather stall them with some paper work then having to do all of the paper work for a court defence

 

I found this template on another site but I only trust this site for accurate advice what do you guys reckon?

 

Dear Sir,

 

Thank you for the reply to my letter dated XX/XX.XXXX.

 

Having taken the time to look over the documents supplied in response to my statutory request made under the Consumer Credit Act 1974, I have the following concerns

 

The document entitled “credit card agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974” which appears to bear my signature fails to comply with the requirements of the Consumer Credit (Cancellation Notices and Copies of Documents) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1557). In particular section 2 of the Regulations

 

As you will be no doubt aware,

the Copy Document Regulations requires that documents are easily legible and clearly the terms of the agreement are not easily legible, infact far from it.

 

 

Many of the terms are blurred and cannot be interpreted and I am further unable to make out the prescribed terms as required by schedule 6 column 2 of the Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1553). After taking advice on this matter,

 

 

I am of the belief that this agreement that you have presented before me, as it stands would be unenforceable even by court order. Therefore, I require that you provide me a clearly legible copy of the agreement, where all the terms are clearly legible

 

Should you not be able to supply a clearly legible copy,

I would suggest that you give consideration to cancelling this account and reducing the balance to zero.

 

 

Of course the alternative would be to seek a declaration of my rights under Section 142(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

 

 

am advised that with the documents that you have supplied there would be an extremely good prospect of success with such a declaration, however, I am mindful of additional costs that such action could incur both on my part and on yours so I trust you will give consideration to this request

 

 

Yours Sincerely

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load of ole twaddle..........

 

why enter into pointless letter tennis.

 

they haven't passed it on BPO are lowells.

 

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Ignore the fools.

 

Whilst the CCA is outstanding, no enforcement action can be taken, and even threatening it is against the FCA guidelines.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Dear Sir/Madam

 

I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THIS ALLEDGED DEBT TO YOUR COMPANY OR ANY OTHER COMPANY

 

Account number/Reference: xxxxxxxxxx

 

I am writing to you to start a formal complaint, after numerous phone calls the questions and issues I have can't be resolved over the phone due to your staff not being able to answer any questions that can't be answered with "might result in a claim being issued"

 

A quick break down of the situation, I tried to apply for credit I got rejected so I checked my credit score saw this alleged debt so I made first contact with you guys I had received no correspondence about this alleged debt that is many years old. So I asked for proof of the debt and the case is still ongoing.

 

I have 4 main issues

 

#1 Why has Lowell Portfolio I ltd asked you to act on their behalf while a CCA request was left outstanding (it had never been sent to me even your records show this) and the debt is in dispute, my understanding of failure to comply with a CCA request is from the FCA website.

 

Failure to comply with a CCA request

Failure to comply with the provisions means that the agreement becomes unenforceable while the failure to comply persists, and the courts have no discretion to allow enforcement.

 

In such cases, a firm should in no way, either by act or omission, mislead a customer as to the enforceability of the agreement.

In particular, a firm should not in such cases either threaten court action or other enforcement of the debt or imply that the debt is enforceable when it is not.

The firm should, in any request for payment or communication relating to a payment (other than a statement issued in accordance with the CCA or regulations made under it which does not constitute or contain a request for payment) in such cases, make clear to the customer that although the debt remains outstanding it is unenforceable.

 

After a phone call once this case had been handed to you, you finally sent me a credit agreement which is totally illegible. Which by this time was too late the FCA rules/regulations/guidelines had all ready been totally ignored

 

#2 Here are a few reasons I don't deem the CCA request fulfilled/sufficient

Its totally illegible none of it can be read

The name is spelt incorrectly from what I can make out

The address is illegible

The post code is illegible to the point there is only 5 characters instead of 6 from what I can make out

 

#3 After a recent phone call with yourselves one of your phone operators informed me you wasn't regulated by the FCA but the "RSA", as you are acting on behalf of Lowell Portfolio I ltd I would assume all the FCA rules/regulations/guidelines would apply. I decided to take look at the SRA website and after looking at the "principles" from the SRA website, one of the principles is Honesty.

 

I believe you have actually acted dishonestly with the information above you still have threatened with possible "claim being issued" even though you have failed to comply with a CCA request, also I quote from the letter dated XXXXX that was sent to myself and you have said in writing "The agreement provided clearly states your details and signature, and is therefore a sufficient copy agreement" as the reasons above this clearly not the case.

 

#4 Also you are not following the CSA code of practice as it states:

Communicate with customers fairly and transparently, and not intentionally mislead them

Treat customers fairly and not subject customers (or their authorised representatives) to aggressive practices, or conduct which is deceitful, oppressive, unfair or improper, whether lawful or not

 

You are trying to use lack of knowledge to bully by the means of aggressively demanding money with misleading information and threatening with court/claims being issued

 

I do fully understand both the FCA and SRA allow up to 8 weeks to resolve the issues, I look forward to being kept up to date with the complaint and your final response within this timeframe.

 

This letter was sent via recorded delivery

 

Yours faithfully

ME

 

I do not wish to hand sign this letter and I am not legally obliged to. (stop them sending it back telling me to sign it)

 

CCA – Consumer Credit Act

FCA - Financial Conduct Authority

SRA - Solicitors Regulation Authority

CSA - Credit Services Association

 

It looks alittle more fancy in word the copy and paste has removed the bullet points/bold writing etc

 

So what do you guys think? I really want to start a formal complaint these lowlifes shouldn't be getting away with what they do!

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Agree with DX, complete waste of ink, as long as there is an outstanding CCA request theres little they can do.

If it does get passed on to another lowlife, send them a CCA request which you already know they cant provide.

 

Then just get on with life until someone tries to make a court claim.

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that happened with my idem account

they sold it on to cabot,

just put a complaint in on the phone with cabot

and the account is now on hold has been for about 3 months

 

The thing is i know i will win in a court,

but i don't want it to go to court

i would rather just keep stalling them or get them to make a "corporate decision not to chase the debt"

 

 

i know someone personally that kept the pressure on, and the DCA wrote the debt completely off

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Waste of ink, time and money.....not only will they NOT read it, they'll simply mark your file as 'mug awaits fleecing' and will continue sending you utter rubbish knowing that you will respond.

 

You CAN ignore them, they are petty powerless debt collectors.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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In order for us to help you we require the following information:-

 

Name of the Claimant ? Lowell solicitors limited

 

Date of issue – 28th feb 2017

Date to acknowledge) = 18.03.2017

date to defence = by 4pm Friday 31st march

What is the claim for –

 

 

1)The defendant entered into a consumer credit act 1974 regulated agreement with Lloyds under account reference XXXXXXX

2)The defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not compiled with

3)The agreement was later assigned to the claimant on 06/14 and notice was given to the defendant

4)Despite repealed requests for payment, the sum of £1000 remains due and outstanding

5)the said sum and interestes bit is here

 

What is the value of the claim? Around £1300

 

Is the claim for a current account (Overdraft)

or credit/loan account or mobile phone account? Credit card

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? towards the end of 2007

 

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt purchaser

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I hadn't received any mail from them as they said "they didn't know my address"

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Honestly it was so long ago i can't remember

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? No as above they said they didn't know my address even though its the same

 

Why did you cease payments? They said 2012

 

What was the date of your last payment? 2012 i would guess

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? I don't know

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt managementicon plan? No

 

This credit agreement they have sent me is totally unreadable to the point my name is missing a letter, the post code is also missing a letter.

 

 

The thing is i can't upload the picture to show you as it would give my name and address,

i can send a private message to one of you guys with the full picture if you like

 

There is a slight delay in me receiving mail due to it being a C/O address

 

 

Whats the best plan of attack here?

do i just offer payment or do i defend it and risk a CCJ?

I'm easy which ever way but would prefer not to have a CCJ

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Start off by acknowledging the claim. I'm not sure you have explained why the documents haven't been reaching you.

 

There shouldn't be any problem with you uploading the documents – but in PDF format please.

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It won't let me edit the post here is the CCA request they sent me

 

 

EDIT

The original notices where not sent they said they didn't have a address for me, i contact these after years of not receiving any paper work about this debt, yet the address they are now sending paper work to is the same

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Acknowledgement and defence dates altered...date on the claim form is day 1.

 

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two threads merged

can yo upload ALL the CCA return please not just ONE page

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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bog roll without T&C's

 

when was this sent to you

and was it as a result of that CCA request in the merged earlier thread here now?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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..I tried to apply for credit I got rejected so I checked my credit score saw this alleged debt so I made first contact with you guys I had received no correspondence about this alleged debt that is many years old...
..they haven't been bothering me up until about 4 weeks ago when I made contact after looking at my credit score..
(from your other related thread)

 

hindsight i know, but if only you hadn't awakened the dog...

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@dx100uk I am guessing it was a result of the CCA request, they continued to hound for money told them to do one until they supply me with a legible copy that can be read instead of simply a piece of paper that has my signature on which could literally say anything.

EDIT: the CCA reply was sent in November

 

@Ford as someone suggested on one of my other threads i need to send them the CCA request so they would have a address for me or they could just file for a claim and win by default.

 

 

How do i go about filling in my defence? shall i just use the online form and fill it step by step or is there a certain type of worded letter (like a template) i need to use?

 

My 14 days from the day i acknowledged it is up very soon

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defence not due till 4pm 31st

have you sent a CPR and a new CCA request since the claimform.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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i haven't i will do them now and send them next day recorded delivery,

 

 

i have found the CPR request template http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387484-LEGAL-CPR-31.14-Request-Request-for-information-when-a-Claim-has-been-issued

 

also do i need to still enclose a £1 postal order as i have already done that on the previous request?

 

I can no longer edit my post but i have question regarding the CPR request.

 

[Prior to the issue of proceedings I had delivered a request for the production of the agreement mentioned in the Claim Form and on which you rely.

That request was ignored][delete if no such request was delivered]

 

 

Do i keep this or delete it, i requested a CCA but they didn't fully comply with it (no T&C's and can't be read)

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Keep it but edit "ignored" to "not complied with"

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i haven't i will do them now and send them next day recorded delivery, i have found the CPR request template http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387484-LEGAL-CPR-31.14-Request-Request-for-information-when-a-Claim-has-been-issued

 

also do i need to still enclose a £1 postal order as i have already done that on the previous request?

 

Dont send a further CCA request if already sent one to Lowell.

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Pewpew, dont confuse the 2 requests, one is a CCA request for the claimant which requires the £1 and you have already sent, this one is a CPR 31:14 which goes to the solicitors and requires no fee.

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Pewpew, dont confuse the 2 requests, one is a CCA request for the claimant which requires the £1 and you have already sent, this one is a CPR 31:14 which goes to the solicitors and requires no fee.

 

I miss read dx's post

 

defence not due till 4pm 31st

have you sent a CPR and a new CCA request since the claimform.

 

I thought it said send a CPR and a new CCA request

 

I have sent out the CPR request they now have it, if they don't respond before the day my defence needs to be in what do i do? I haven't even click on the defence button yet so i have no clue what it requires from me

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You don't want them to reply!!!

Think about it...

 

Go read other threads....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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