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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
    • Thanks, I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today. Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.
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Well, as I predicted in my previous thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?476584-Highview-Parking-want-another-go-***Success*** I was half expecting a PCN from LowLife Parking for 7th & 8th April, and I have to admit, was rather surprised when they didn't send one.

 

However, today, the postman has brought me a gift

 

That'll be 29 days then, and as there was no NTD (as LowLife don't do those) it'll also be game over.

 

I wonder if I'll get another one (for 8th April) on Monday

 

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

 

 

I've no idea what LowLife are playing at on this one. So far, I've always found them to be on the ball regarding the sending of NTK's, but, as they clearly have money to burn, I shall assist them by wasting some more of it for them. tongue.png

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But they could argue the same back re insanity of doing the same thing.

 

How many times have Lowlife now tried this on with you, for the same car park ?

 

Has this become a new hobby ?

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They are scuppered by both s.9(2)(f) and s.9(5) of Sch.4 of POFA 2012, unless you want to say "It's me! I was the driver!", which seems only slightly more unwise than it is unlikely that you'd say it!

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But they could argue the same back re insanity of doing the same thing.

 

A good point well made :smile:

 

How many times have Lowlife now tried this on with you, for the same car park ?

 

To be honest, I've lost count. I think it must be getting on for about a dozen now though

 

Has this become a new hobby ?

 

Yes, it could well be my new hobby, "Highview Baiting". I've been looking for something to do and I never have fancied trainspotting :lol:

 

You really do think that they'd have learned by now though. How hard can it be to not bother wasting your money by sending an NTK. Especially one that's 15 days late lol.gif

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Interestingly (though it may not be a surprise to regulars, I've only just noticed it) : the letter is an identical format to a CP Plus parking charge notice.

 

The PO Box 3573 seems shared by them.

Different Registered Office addresses, though.

 

3 Directors that are directors for both companies, all with correspondence addresses listed (on Companies House's app, when you click on the director from their Highview Parking Ltd entry), that are on Flask Walk, NW3 1HE, (where CP Plus have their registered office).

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They are scuppered by both s.9(2)(f) and s.9(5) of Sch.4 of POFA 2012, unless you want to say "It's me! I was the driver!", which seems only slightly more unwise than it is unlikely that you'd say it!

 

I did consider that, for about a nanosecond. If only to see what they'd do next. I want them to take me to court, but of course, they don't really do court so I really would be wasting my time on that one. Plus the fact of course that it would be a lie, and I definitely won't do that in court! ohmy.png

 

Yesterday, as it happens, I sent in a request to the DVLA for the following...

 

Please supply me with details of which companies and/or individuals have accessed keeper information for my vehicle since I acquired it on 14/09/2016.

 

This may include companies and/or individuals accessing details of the vehicles previous keeper before your vehicle records were updated.

 

Please supply the following.

 

1. The company that requested the data. (For each access.)

2. The specific purpose for which that data was accessed. (For each access.)

3. The date of the request to the DVLA. (For each access.)

4. The date that the data was released by the DVLA. (For each access.)

5. If this was a manual request, please supply me with a copy of the V888, V888/2 or V888/3. (For each manual access.)

6. If this was an electronic release, please supply me with a copy of the contract between the DVLA and the requestor that allows EDI access. (For each company.)

7. A record of any and all DVLA audits of the requesting company. (For each company.)

8. If at any time the original requesting party had the permission of the DVLA to sell and/or pass my personal information to any third party. (For each company and/or manual access.)

 

So, I shall wait and see the outcome of that, and then if there are grounds (which I'm sure there will be), I will be issuing Highview (and possibly Debt Recovery Plus) with a LBA, which won't be an idle threat, and making complaints to the BPA (probably a waste of time), the DVLA (likewise) and the ICO.

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Interestingly (though it may not be a surprise to regulars, I've only just noticed it) : the letter is an identical format to a CP Plus parking charge notice.

 

The PO Box 3573 seems shared by them.

Different Registered Office addresses, though.

 

3 Directors that are directors for both companies, all with correspondence addresses listed (on Companies House's app, when you click on the director from their Highview Parking Ltd entry), that are on Flask Walk, NW3 1HE, (where CP Plus have their registered office).

 

There's quite an incestuous relationship between all of these... Highview Parking Limited, CP Plus Limtied, CP Plus (International) Limited, CP Plus (Trading) Limited, CP Plus Investments Limited, Ranger Services, Ranger (Holdings) Limited, Ranger Plus Limited, Fairer Parking Scheme Limited, Target Parking Limited. All have one (or more) of the same directors.

 

And talking of different registered offices, Highview can't even get that bit right. According to their NTK and their website. They claim to have 2 separate 'registered' offices, at completely different addresses.

 

NTK. Registered Office. Ranger House, Queens Road, Barnet. EN5 4DJ

Website: Registered Office. 88 Crawford Street. London. W1H 2EJ.

 

And that's without the confusion of trying to actually write to them.

 

PO Box 3573, Barnet EN5 9QA (which is on the NTK) or PO Box 599, Borehamwood, Hertfordshire. WD6 4ZL (which is the address displayed on the signage).

 

 

Basics people, BASICS! whistle.gif

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NTK. Registered Office. Ranger House, Queens Road, Barnet. EN5 4DJ

Website: Registered Office. 88 Crawford Street. London. W1H 2EJ.

 

88 Crawford Street is Cameron Baum, an accountants. They seem to be the registered office for a number of companies.... (not that that implies anything illegal or immoral, many companies use their accountants address as their registered office).

The registered office was changed to Ranger House from 88 Crawford Street on 2/6/15.

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88 Crawford Street is Cameron Baum, an accountants. They seem to be the registered office for a number of companies.... (not that that implies anything illegal or immoral, many companies use their accountants address as their registered office).

The registered office was changed to Ranger House from 88 Crawford Street on 2/6/15.

 

Oh, I wasn't implying that there was anything wrong with changing their registered office. No problem with that at all. But you'd think that it may have occurred to someone up at LowLife Towers that not changing it on their website is breaking the law.

 

Since the introduction of the Companies Act 2006 it is also a legal requirement to display your registered office address on your company’s website.

 

Oops!

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Here's what I will be posting to LowLife on Monday.

 

HPL - Letter 1. 06-05-17 _Redacted_.pdf

 

I'm not even bothering to mention that the NTK was timed out. I'll save that (yet another appeal reason) for POPLA if they choose to go down that route.

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I had a bit of a rethink on this one...

 

I'm going to go with. "The driver of the vehicle is allowed to park in this location during any month containing the letters A, R or U and on any day containing the letter Y. As April contains both the letter A and the letter R, and Friday contains the letter Y, this charge should be cancelled"

 

Sod 'em, I'm just going to let them waste their money to issue me with a HOOPLA code. laugh.png

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they also fail to name themselves as creditor of the debt so another approach is to say that you have paid the entity who wrote to you with an identical letter but said they were the creditor and you paid them

 

The reason why these peopel have several companies doing the same job is so when one folds because they dotn feel like paying their taxes or someone sues them they can wind that one up but keep going with the others. They wuill claim that there was a transfer of certain liabilities (ie tell people they are sending out demands to that the debt has been transferred when it legally hasnt been ) and swap signs in the car park without telling the landowner and then claim that they have transferred the contract ( again, normally not true).so they have a right to continue to scrw over random people and the company that was foolish enough to let them in..

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Just for my ease, I decided to appeal this one online (with an email address of highview_are_not_getting_paid@)

 

They "considered my reasons for appeal carefully" and rejected it, issued me with a HOOPLA code and I appealed to HOOPLA using exactly the same grounds as last time.

 

Apparently "after further investigation", LowLife Parking have decided to cancel the PCN.

 

 

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Thread title amended...well done DF

 

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I won't start yet another new thread, but... Guess what tongue.png

 

You're way ahead of me.

 

I've had yet another NTK from DimView Parking.

 

Parking event: 14th April

NTK Date: 8th May

Received: 11th May

 

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Online appeal again, I'm fed up with wasting stamps even if they're not.

 

I do not pay PCNs that are received on a Thursday. Unfortunately, your PCN has arrived on a Thursday so you're all out of luck. If you're desperate to waste some more of Highview's money, just supply me with a POPLA code.

 

 

This is starting to get ridiculous now facepalm.gif

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Do you have to enter the car park, if you are just dropping off, picking up ?

 

The CCTV might be poorly sighted, but you don't have a car behind you each time you left the car park, causing a problem.

 

Is it possible LowView will put all of these cases together and decide to pursue one of them in the future? They have given up so far, as there is a CCTV issue in that car park, they can't seem to argue against.

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Do you have to enter the car park, if you are just dropping off, picking up ?

 

The CCTV might be poorly sighted, but you don't have a car behind you each time you left the car park, causing a problem.

 

Is it possible LowView will put all of these cases together and decide to pursue one of them in the future? They have given up so far, as there is a CCTV issue in that car park, they can't seem to argue against.

 

You would have to yes, well, unless you stopped on the road outside, but that would be on DYL. But this isn't about dropping off/picking up.

 

The driver has and the car displays a staff parking permit which is clearly displayed in the windscreen, yet DimView, despite being told this on countless occasions, still continue to waste their money and issue NTK's.

 

I really hope that they do decide to take me to court as a) that will allow me to wipe the floor with them there as well and b) allow me to issue a counter claim (without having to spend any of my own money). But I don't think they've got the minerals for it.

 

 

Anyway, the "Appeals" department are clearly on the Espresso this morning and have already "carefully considered" and rejected my appeal and issued me with my HOOPLA code. Off we go again then whistle.gif

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I really hope that they do decide to take me to court as a) that will allow me to wipe the floor with them there as well and b) allow me to issue a counter claim (without having to spend any of my own money). But I don't think they've got the minerals for it.

 

You'd still have to pay the issue fee for your (counter)claim

What is your counter claim for?.

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You'd still have to pay the issue fee for your (counter)claim

What is your counter claim for?.

 

Granted, but it would cost me less.

 

As for grounds for the counter claim, I'd start with their breaches of the DPA (no reasonable grounds to access my keeper details) and go from there I'd say. thumbup.gif

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Yup, and that cause of action (misuse of private information) is actionable 'per se'

[s13.1 of the DPA, S 13.2 having been disapplied by the Court of Appeal], so you don't even have to show actual damage caused ....

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As I said though, I honestly don't think that they've got the minerals to actually take me to court. I've been trying to goad them in to it for about 2½ years!

 

Plus, they'd have to win at HOOPLA first anyway and they keep withdrawing as they know they've got no grounds to issue the NTKs. It's laughable really. Perhaps their business model (in my case at least) is "waste as much money as possible".

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if they do get you to court they may quote all of the times that they have withdrawn their claims and say that you are a "vexatious defendant" and demand a free kick or a penalty if inside the box.

They may demand that the BPA allow them to have another go as they werent ready this time.

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if they do get you to court they may quote all of the times that they have withdrawn their claims and say that you are a "vexatious defendant" and demand a free kick or a penalty if inside the box.

They may demand that the BPA allow them to have another go as they werent ready this time.

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DimView have thrown in the towel, again.

 

Presuming that on each occasion they're paying the DVLA £2.50.

Allowing £1 for printing and postage.

And £32.40 (inc VAT) to issue a Hoopla code.

 

I reckon that so far, DimView have wasted about £500 issuing me with NTK's. More when you also add in all the begging letters from DRP. toast.gif

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DimView have thrown in the towel, again.

 

Presuming that on each occasion they're paying the DVLA £2.50.

Allowing £1 for printing and postage.

And £32.40 (inc VAT) to issue a Hoopla code.

 

I reckon that so far, DimView have wasted about £500 issuing me with NTK's. More when you also add in all the begging letters from DRP. toast.gif

 

You could always write to them pointing out that they are losing money and ask if they are interested in paying you as a consultant ! Perhaps you can install the CCTV in a different place, so they don't have the issues they currently have.

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