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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
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      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Can somebody explain to me what the spiri of the law is.

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Its a shame they were not sent to the Conservatives instead of the lib dems....Cameron would surely have Darling and Brown on the rack over this.

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Whilst awaiting Stephen Hesters response I thought i'd post Cobbetts response to my letter asking for confirmation that RBSs statement submitted into court was truthfull.

 

 

Edit re-scan the document and repost without identifying data :)

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I would submit that once the Bank had set up your account under certain terms and conditions as stated be it correct or incorrect, in my view the Law of Estoppell will not allow them to go back and change that agreement/contract.....another shining example of how RBS think they can do whatevere they like..

 

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Cobbetts seem to think that forwarding the correct terms and conditions would somehow correct the banks wrongdoing, it appears RBS think it acceptable to process accounting data irrespective of the fact that the accounts were been set up incorrectly.

 

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Significant development.

 

Subsequent to my Right Honourable MPs joint meeting with RBS on the 25th March a meeting is to take place in the House of Commons between myself and RBS senior management.

 

Paul

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Closer to the Tower ...."Off with their heads"!!! "Off with their heads"!!:D:D:D

 

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Nice one Sparkie.

 

Keep up the fight.

 

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Significant development.

 

Subsequent to my Right Honourable MPs joint meeting with RBS on the 25th March a meeting is to take place in the House of Commons between myself and RBS senior management.

 

Paul

 

You'll be having tea with The Queen, next!

 

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:rolleyes:

 

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Significant development.

 

Subsequent to my Right Honourable MPs joint meeting with RBS on the 25th March a meeting is to take place in the House of Commons between myself and RBS senior management.

 

Paul

 

:-o

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abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

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Significant development.

 

Subsequent to my Right Honourable MPs joint meeting with RBS on the 25th March a meeting is to take place in the House of Commons between myself and RBS senior management.

 

Paul

 

Keep your hand on your wallet, and count your fingers after shaking hands with them !!

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Significant development.

 

Subsequent to my Right Honourable MPs joint meeting with RBS on the 25th March a meeting is to take place in the House of Commons between myself and RBS senior management.

 

Paul

 

Nice one Paul

 

Do us a favour and take the RBS credit agreement I have with the dodgy PPI figures:) and ask them what they are playing at...;)

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Extremely important!

 

I need to know the amount of interest which would have been charged on £375.31 from the 14 Sept to 01 Oct 1998 on an unauthorised overdraft....anyone?

 

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Hi PW,

 

Compound interest calculator

 

This compound interest calculator should do it, but you'll need to know the rates which applied throughout the period.

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Hi PW,

 

Compound interest calculator

 

This compound interest calculator should do it, but you'll need to know the rates which applied throughout the period.

 

Thanks, I realy need to find the unapproved overdraft rate for 1998.

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Hi Paul,

 

send a P.M to yourbank, he is the guy who will most likely know or if he does't he will find out........I am sure it was either 29.8% or 28.9%.

 

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Already have done.

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Extremely important!

 

I need to know the amount of interest which would have been charged on £375.31 from the 14 Sept to 01 Oct 1998 on an unauthorised overdraft....anyone?

 

Paul

 

can i get my order in now? could do with a new putter...

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abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

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I thought I'd drop my MP a line to confirm my attendance (although we have exchanged emails) of the forthcoming meeting where I will have RBS squirming.

 

 

PW

 

 

 

Dated 05 May 09

 

Rt Hon John Healey MP

House of Commons

London

SW1A 0AA

 

Dear Mr Healey

 

Thank you for arranging and attending the meeting with RBS on the 25th March and for forwarding me your letter dated the 22 April including Mr Hemsley’s offer of a without prejudice meeting.

 

Mr Hemsley does not appear to address any of my arguments in his letter nor does he expand up on or defend the greatly inflated “book debt” which RBS are continuing to process and is used for legal enforcement purposes as well as in their legal defence bundles.

 

Mr Hemsley is also cleverly implying that my behaviour was repudiatory in nature by failing to make the contractual monthly payment on the loan before and after default, and also refusing to provide the bank details of my financial status. I think it right and proper to defend this allegation before the forthcoming meeting. In June 1998 RBS applied £289.00 in unlawful charges, which for reference was far greater than my loan payment. I was then advised by Rotherham CAB to open an account with a different bank and offer RBS an affordable payment until my circumstances had changed; this offer was based on pro rota of income and expenditure and sent to the Rotherham branch. However, RBS refused my offer and obtained Judgment. (I have telephone transcripts where CMS acknowledge my offer)

 

I gladly accept your offer to mediate in this matter and look forward to travelling down to the House of Commons where I will substantiate all of my claims if need be.

 

I await your response.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Paul Walton

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Very nicely put Paul,

Mr Hemsley in his letter to my MP Mr Andrew Miller....does not even mention my Router Account and its inflated book debt...as if I didn't have one

He will know different in 18 days time.

 

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Did you know you are more famous than you think:D:D:D

 

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http://www.consumerforums.com/the-news/latest-news/72-royal-bank-of-scotland-admits-accounting-[problem].html

 

 

 

Read the latest post on this thread Paul another one.adding post judgement clauses illegally.

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/182664-help-i-have-just-new-post.html

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It's been confirmed that my meeting with senior RBS management will take place mid July in room 4 House of Commons.

 

Will keep you updated.

 

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