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I just googled Blair Oliver and Scott and nearly fell out of my chair when I read this: Debt Questions • View topic - Blair, Oliver and Scott

 

This is definitely not the Blair Oliver and Scott that I've got to know and love, even if they were polite to me tonight.

 

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs.

 

Fred

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You can't be that far from me then Fred :D

 

Well, I'll go t't top of our road :lol:

 

I've asked for your threads to be merged (it's simple really, just click on the triangle, third icon at the bottom of your username and ask the MODs ;) - you really need to read our Bookie's Guide here).

 

If you haven't already sent BOS the telephone harassment letter, then you need to do so ASAP.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/letter-templates/131250-dca-creditor-harassment-telephone.html

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You can't be that far from me then Fred :D

 

Well, I'll go t't top of our road :lol:

 

I've asked for your threads to be merged (it's simple really, just click on the triangle, third icon at the bottom of your username and ask the MODs ;) - you really need to read our Bookie's Guide here).

 

If you haven't already sent BOS the telephone harassment letter, then you need to do so ASAP.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/letter-templates/131250-dca-creditor-harassment-telephone.html

 

Thanks Brassed Off.

 

I don't actually feel harassed by them at the moment, but I think I'll send that letter off anyway.

 

I'm probably quite a long way from you but I just love that saying although I've no idea what it means or how it came about!

 

Regards.

 

Fred

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Noooo Fred, have just looked at the link you've posted. IME (and I've spoken to a few DCAs in my time - pre-CAG of course;) ), they may start you off with the very nice call centre operators so you blab all to them and then the "nice" operators pass you on to their line managers who are the pits and will reduce you to tears (in my case).

 

Yes, I can see their tactics. Let 'em tell all to a "nice" call centre operator DCA and then when they've blabbed, we'll pass 'em on to a real shi*t who will make them think they have to sell their dog/car/body :eek:

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Don't worry Brassed Off, I'm not fooled by any of this. I've been on the receiving end of the 'normal' Blair Oliver Scott and I know what they're like - they're the modern-day result of what happened centuries ago when sex-starved Anglo Saxons discovered pigs.

 

I'm all geared up to deal with them though and legally they can't touch me because they haven't been able to produce any kind of documentation whatsoever - not even an application form.

 

Mentally I'm prepared for them though and that's the important thing. Most importantly so is my Wife. I couldn't have done this a couple of years ago but in a strange sort of way I'm looking forward to having a good scrap with them because I know that I can't lose and I want revenge for the way they've treated me in the past.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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Not yet. Will it do any good. I don't have too much faith in the toothless tigers that are supposed to regulate this lot. I'll do it if it strengthens my case against them though.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

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Well, I really think you should do it anyway.

 

The only reason I'm saying this is that the more complaints against the same company, the more TS are likely to investigate them.

 

I complained to CD and ended up getting a reply from OFT re Aktiv Kapital, so you never know ;)

 

It's best to register your complaint anyway as the more complaints they get, the more they're likely to take some action.

 

OMG, that reminds me, I need to update my Ak Krap thread :D

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Now here's a question about this account and the same one is going on currently on another thread. Is it a bank account or is it a credit card? It seems to operate as a hybrid. How would I find out - would Blair Oliver and Scott tell me do you think?

 

So the corollary question is this: I'm not paying them at the moment, but I know that there were a horrendous amount of charges on this account, so could I claim them back while simultaneously denying the existence of a legally enforceable agreement between us? Bit over the top I think, but any chance to wind up this shower would be welcome.

 

Any advice would be gratefully received.

 

Cheers.

 

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Well this one's just dragging on really, I've had various letters from Blair Oliver and Scott and I'm stringing them along because I just hate the bas****s and love winding them up.

 

Yesterday I had a 'letter' in the form of a payslip. I've heard about these before and of course I recognised the Rosyth postmark straight away so I wasn't surprised by the contents. Here it is:

 

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I've just done this one in reply:

 

Dawn Hood

Blair Oliver and Scott Ltd.

PO Box 66

Rosyth

Fife

KY11 2WG

 

6th July 2007

 

Dear Dawn,

Your Reference: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thank you for your ‘letter’ dated 30th June 2008. I’m sorry that Blair Oliver and Scott has been unable to speak to me. This is because I don’t talk to (Edit).

 

Please get on with things and pass this account to Moorcroft.

 

Love and Hugs.

 

Fred

 

Regards to all.

 

Fred

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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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I am not European, I am English.

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I've had a letter today from IQOR regarding this account. I've drafted the usual 'I'm bemused' letter but since then, because of a comment by Rhia on another thread, I've been reading a lot of threads relating to Unfair Commercial Practices Directive.

 

In this case, the original creditor - Bank of Scotland/Capital have been unable to supply any kind of agreement whatsoever - not even an application form.

 

As far as I can see then, If I send IQOR a CCA request, along with the £1 postal order, they are then obliged to send me a copy of the properly-executed agreement and can't simply fob me off with the excuse that this is in the realm of the original creditor. Also, if I've understood this correctly, IQOR could then be liable under the new directive for non-compliance with my request.

 

Have I understood this correctly?

 

Regards.

 

Fred

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Hi fred IQOR are idiots for the record, send them this courtesy of Scarlet Pimpernel (many Thanks)

 

Re: Account no: xxxxxxxx

 

This letter is a formal request pursuant to s.77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. I require you to provide me with a true copy of the credit agreement relating to the above account, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

 

I expect you to comply fully and properly with this request, within the statutory time limit. You are reminded that should you fail to comply with my request, the provisions of s.77(6) will apply.

 

If it is your view that you are not the creditor, s.175 of the CCA 1974 applies in the case of a simple assignment, and places a duty upon you to pass this request to the creditor. In the case of an absolute assignment, you are a creditor as defined by s.189. If you contend that you purchased the rights but not the duties of any agreement, you are reminded that s.189 of the Act is clear that an assignment is of both rights and duties.

 

Your attention is drawn to ss.5(2), 3(b), 6 and 7 of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPUTR).

 

I enclose a postal order in the sum of £1.00, which is the statutory fee. Note that these funds are not to be used for any other purpose.

 

If you are unable to comply fully and properly with this request, you should confirm this in writing at the earliest opportunity, and certainly within the statutory time limit for compliance, and return the fee.

 

If you do not understand this letter, you should seek professional advice

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Hi fred IQOR are idiots for the record, send them this courtesy of Scarlet Pimpernel (many Thanks)

 

Re: Account no: xxxxxxxx

 

This letter is a formal request pursuant to s.77/78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. I require you to provide me with a true copy of the credit agreement relating to the above account, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide.

 

I expect you to comply fully and properly with this request, within the statutory time limit. You are reminded that should you fail to comply with my request, the provisions of s.77(6) will apply.

 

If it is your view that you are not the creditor, s.175 of the CCA 1974 applies in the case of a simple assignment, and places a duty upon you to pass this request to the creditor. In the case of an absolute assignment, you are a creditor as defined by s.189. If you contend that you purchased the rights but not the duties of any agreement, you are reminded that s.189 of the Act is clear that an assignment is of both rights and duties.

 

Your attention is drawn to ss.5(2), 3(b),6 and 7 of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPUTR).

 

I enclose a postal order in the sum of £1.00, which is the statutory fee. Note that these funds are not to be used for any other purpose.

 

If you are unable to comply fully and properly with this request, you should confirm this in writing at the earliest opportunity, and certainly within the statutory time limit for compliance, and return the fee.

 

If you do not understand this letter, you should seek professional advice

 

Cheers creditcardmug, that is exactly what I was looking for.

 

Oh joy! I've got similar battles on my hands with Moorcroft (Halifax) and Cabot (Goldfish) and I've written them all letters today. I think I'll put all of those letters on hold and send this one instead.

 

Happy days!

 

Regards.

 

Fred

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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I am not European, I am English.

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Dear All,

 

Today I've received a 'Notice of Legal Proceedings' letter from IQOR. Apparently they are going to take me to court and establish their right to collect this alleged debt even though they have no agreement whatsoever. I'm shaking in my boots, I really am.

 

Now what's the best eff off letter in these circumstances? I've already sent the CCA request but I'd like to ratchet this one up another notch. There is a letter somewhere in the templates section relating to getting a copy of the evidence they will rely on in court. I can't find it though. Any help or other suggestions greatly appreciated as usual.

 

Regards

 

Fred

 

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Can they really get away with that statement.. "Valid even if not read by you" ?

 

I like the way they have protected themselves by heading the letter "This is not a Court Document"... scaredy cats :D

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Can they really get away with that statement.. "Valid even if not read by you" ?

 

I like the way they have protected themselves by heading the letter "This is not a Court Document"... scaredy cats :D

 

Pathetic isn't it?

 

Regards.

 

Fred

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

I am not European, I am English.

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Here's my reply to IQOR:

 

IQOR

33/34 Winckley Square

Preston

PR1 3EL

 

 

22nd August 2008

 

 

Dear Sirs,

 

Your Reference: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thank you for your threatening letter dated 15th August 2008 which arrived here on 21st August. I note that you gave me until 10am this morning to find £xxxx. You know this of course, as well as realising that I would not read it until I came home from work last night, so your letter was deliberately timed to try and induce the sort of panic that would force people to ring you and speak to the brainless, power-crazy control freaks who man your telephones.

 

 

As it looks like we will now be seeing each other in court, could I please remind you to bring with you the original of the properly-executed agreement that you will be relying on, as without it you may not get too far. I note that so far you have been unable to furnish a copy of this document, so a 'heads up' copy would be much appreciated.

 

 

As previously requested, please don't ring me because I really do have better things to do than talk to your 'help line' orangutans. It's not just that, I can't understand them because they're all too thick.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fred Bassett

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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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I am not European, I am English.

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Well, more than a year after I first asked for it, BOS have finally come up with the agreement for the preference account.

 

It's a very odd one this, because nobody seems to be able to say for sure that it is a credit card or a bank account or even a 'debit account'. Either way, it acts like a credit card with a cheque book - there's no money in it as such to start with.

 

Anyway, here's the agreement. It looks OK to me which is a pity because I wanted to put this one on the back burner while I sorted some of the others out. If it's enforceable, which I suspect it is, then I'll pay it. One thing for sure - there will be a lot of charges on this one, so If I have to pay it I will go hell for leather to get the charges refunded - and at their contractual rate of interest which is nearly 30%. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

 

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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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I am not European, I am English.

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I do have this on my own thread, but that one's mixed in with another and this is an unusual type of 'credit' card (if it is a credit card), so any opinions would be welcome.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

 

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I am not European, I am English.

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