Debt Collector agreed to pay me to provide staff training!!!

[Gingerheid]

I stated that I was only willing to do something; (telephone their premium rate revenue sharing 0870 number) if I was being paid. I specifically stated that I was not willing to do this if I was not being paid. Having read this they have asked me to telephone.

 

Their letter also completely fails to address the matters that needed consideration if they did not want to enter the contract because they believed that there was actually a debt (which in any case there isn't). My letter was the offer, and I am certain that there is no other way of interpretating their letter other than as acceptance. After reading my e-mail (which they fisrt acknowledged) why would they then have sent that letter that they did if they didn't want to enter into the contract?

 

The remainder of the wording in their letter also reflects closely the form which I specifically requested for if they were to wish to enter into a contract, at times even using the same words.

 

Lest there should be any mistake I will tonight be e-mailing them the confirmation of our arrangement and of the terms of it, and as well as giving them a few days cooling off period I will also check before starting the first conversation (after giving my reference number obviously) that they did intend to ask me to phone them. As this conversation will be recorded, in compliance with the terms of the agreement, I can see no room for doubt.

 

However I can't see why there could be a mistake; I think my offer is fantastic and at a very low price for the service being provided. Remember that I will even be having to provide equipment to record the conversations and send these recording to them, in addition to working within tight deadlines or facing financial penalties.

 

I believe that this will be a fantastic little business and I look forward to winning more customers. I am also thinking about whether there are any other products that I may be able to offer customers.

[Pliny the Penuriosus]

The stupid thing is that some idiot may actually pass your invoice for payment:D

 

Having read this wonderful thread I can say that gingerheid appears to have entered into a valid contract & can demand payment

 

Name for your business Specific Help & Investment in Training

[Vampyra]

Well done! A great kick in the preverbials! LOL

 

I'll jump on board too if you like - I enjoy phone calls! LOL

 

Good for you, mate, good for you!

[ODC]

Just wondered how business was going. Are they responding well to your training course. Have they paid your invoice yet:-D

[Pliny the Penuriosus]

Gingerheid is clearly far too busy to respond so business must be brisk. I wonder has he taken on any more clients? If not I'm sure we could all recommend a few.

[demon_x_slash]

Careful - if you reply directly to one of Gingerheid's posts, you implicitly agree to pay £1.50 for that first post, and £3.00 for all posts thereafter

[Gingerheid]

Sorry about that - I've been hideously busy, but with the day job and not the self employment!

 

They started to actually read the e-mail when I phoned, and that seemed to throw them just a little when they realised.

 

They told me the case was closed, and that I should contact their client directly. When I asked to speak to their accounts dept about payment for the call started saying that they couldn't hear me, and finally hung up. An invoice will be sent today.

 

Obviously I would love to post a recording of the call, but I expect that client confidentiality prevents me from doing so.

 

But it went a bit like:

 

>Name of DCA

>Good afternoon, how may I help you.

>I can just about hear you, are you on a mobile phone?

>Ok, much better

>What's the (name of DCA) reference number please?

>And the name please?

>And are you (quotes title and full name)?

>OK. I must make you aware that our phone calls may be recorded for training and quality purposes. Is that ok?

>(quietly) Right. I'm just reading the e-mail. Uhm... *silence* *sharp intake of breath*. Right. *pause* You'd have to take this up with our client.

>You'd have to take this up with our client. Our file has been closed here.

>Right

>*silence* Sorry, the line is extremely bad.

>Have you got water or something running around you?

>Are you near water?

>Oh. Well it sounds like a waterfall or something from our side.

>Yeah

>The file has been closed here.

>So you'd have to go back to (client)

>(shouts) payment for what?

>Uh... you'd have to... take that up with the company. I can't answer for that.

>Sorry, you've definitely disappeared. The signal is very very bad.

>No. Ok, now you've gone feint and now you've definitely disappeared.

 

I'm not expecting to get any further work from them. I'm afraid, so I'll invoice them now and await payment for the work completed.

 

Maybe they are annoyed I took so long to phone; unfortunately I did want to give them some cooling off time just incase of any future legal proceedings, and I do have to give the day job priority as it's it that pays the rent and the bills.

[FunnyMan]

Brilliant!

[rory32]

Priceless stuff......well done Gingerheid!!

[jaxads]

Brilliant - can't stop laughing!!!!!

[kennyparkroad]

lololol

[ODC]

Brilliant. You really have them baffelled.

[demon_x_slash]

Phew, I can reply now that others have done so - didn't want the evil genius to stitch me up with my own post - I can't afford £3.00 a posting judging at the rate I post on 'ere...

 

*applauds*

[dannyboy660]

Oh fer Christ's sake, how long is this going to go on for??

 

Right.

 

I made you project manager,.... OK?? All I've seen and heard so far is a lot of "spiel". You talk the talk but can you actually achieve the brief that was given you??

 

OK.

 

Look, I didn't get where I am today by.....

 

Have you finished now....??

 

Yes, I'm sure but talk, talk, won't get pennies in the bank.......

 

OK. That's it. It's quite simple. It just needs someone to draw a line. Gingerheid........put that away.........Gingerheid........who are you going to bring back into the boardroom with you..........????

[Gingerheid]

Needless to say, nodbody oes me a penny, unless of course they start sending me stupid letters that say the same thing regardless of what I say to them. And I mean, who would be so stupid as to do that?

[dannyboy660]

Needless to say, nodbody oes me a penny, unless of course they start sending me stupid letters that say the same thing regardless of what I say to them. And I mean, who would be so stupid as to do that?

 

Why do you even respond them - if there is no case to answer??

 

Have you not considered it might be making it more difficult to the non "Frankie Howerd's" of the gang.......such as myself???

 

I may be unique, in that I've missed the crux of your argument, but after a while of dredging, I'm only seeing someone who responds to automated mouse traps???

 

Is this really the way to go about dealing with debt problem???

 

 

 

 

God./......I must be a boring old fart if I find this off putting..........

[Gingerheid]

Well... I don't have a debt problem. I have a someone trying to chase me for money I don't owe problem. I don't owe anyone anything.

 

However what they are doing; ie totally ignoring people, would be a grave barrier to anyone that was genuinely trying to sort out a real debt problem.

 

I believe that trying to teach them to not ignore people, and trying to open them up to more criticism is worthwhile. They are behaving disgracefully, and they have done it over such a long period of time that they cannot claim it was a one off error, one member of staff with a training need who has now left, a regrettable freak occurrance... whatever. There is a compelling complaint which should be hard to ignore.

 

And why not have a laugh while you're going about it? I think it's always good to see demonstrable evidence that people who portray themselves as pretty powerful actually have fundemental weaknesses that anyone could take advantage of.

[ODC]

Needless to say, nodbody oes me a penny, unless of course they start sending me stupid letters that say the same thing regardless of what I say to them. And I mean, who would be so stupid as to do that?

Robinson Way

Lowells

Link

BCW

Bliar Oliver Scott

Cabot

Crapquest

Activ Crapital

Frederickson International

Bryan Whatshisname

etc etc

 

 

A L L E G E D L Y

[Curlyben]

ODC,

Could I possibly add RMA, NCO, Wescott and Lewis to that list.

 

ALLEGEDLY

[ODC]

ODC,

Could I possibly add RMA, NCO, Wescott and Lewis to that list.

 

ALLEGEDLY

Of course the list could become endless

[dannyboy660]

You're right gingerheid.

 

Nothing wrong with having a bit of a laugh with them anyway. Take no notice of me whinging, I was just on a bit of a downer yesterday. Much happier now the weekend has finally arrived... :)

[calvi36]

It's my 40th birthday today and was feeling a tad down about not being a teenager any longer, this thread had me practically incontinent due to laughing. This is absolute class. I have saved your letter gingerheid and I will use it if am contacted if that's ok.

[Wabnazm]

Genius Gingerhied, pure genius

[ODC]

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[ODC]

It's my 40th birthday today and was feeling a tad down about not being a teenager any longer, this thread had me practically incontinent due to laughing. This is absolute class. I have saved your letter gingerheid and I will use it if am contacted if that's ok.

 

If you think thats funny read this one

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/73108-1st-credit-noting-contents.html