Paypals new rival!!!!!

[djrichie_t]

Google checkout!

 

http://checkout.google.co.uk/

 

And guess what.... its already been banned for use on ebay haha! I just signed up with google and the fees dont seem to be that bad.

[buzby]

I've been using it for around 10 months now (for US transactions) and it works well - but some CC are treating purchases as cash advances, so one to watch). Apart from that, eBay's decision to block other payment systems was fine when there were security issues, but simply because the provide consumer choice is something the regulators may want to look into.

[ManagingDirector]

Google Inc is Worse then eBay Inc

 

Just because Google has a slogan of Dont Be Evil or something on those lines doesnt mean they wont be evil.

[Rich44]

You of course can back that claim up?

[mnrbig]

If ebay doesn't watch out, we will see a google bay or something. The guys at google currently have very very deep pockets indeed.

[ManagingDirector]

Rich~ Google it, erm... adsense dont pay up, adsense terminated my account without reason... something on those lines, unless google has filtered them you will find loads of them.

 

They even tried to terminate my adsense account simply because someone was viewing my site too much - claiming click fraud or something - even though this person never clicked on an advert - as the adsense is javascript i suppose they got a small increase in hits by that user - nothing under my control, nothing that would jepordise their servers stability or anything - my shared with a thousand other people hosting managed to survive it - i mean google could have simply blocked that users IP.

 

I mean my website was far from the most popular on the internet (understatement) and if some of the big sites can have adsense and be fine, then why were they picking on a small site? Simply because if they do it to loads of them they save alot of money - we dont have money to take them to court - i would call that evil, personally...

 

Anyway, after it being suspended for a month (lost earnings and freeze on payouts) i finally got it over turned, all the hassle to make a few quid from your website...

[ManagingDirector]

mrnbig... hasnt google already announced plans for an auction website?

[AnimalMagic]

Rich~ Google it, erm... adsense dont pay up, adsense terminated my account without reason... something on those lines, unless google has filtered them you will find loads of them.

 

Yes, our club website had adsense and our account was terminated in a similar manner. No appeal. Easy to see how google became so rich!

[Rich44]

Yes, yes but that hardly qualifies the statement "Evil" though does it?

 

There's obviously something wrong and I have no particular love of Google or for that matter Microsoft but refering to them as Evil doesnt really help matters and potentially turns people off from listening.

 

Lets try to keep some perspective

[ManagingDirector]

the funny thing is...

 

Microsoft declares themself as a huge corporate company who are determined to make as much profit as possible by selling software to which rivals dont even come close to them. The anti-trust competition is solely because nothing beats Windows and Office....

 

Google... people still think its some bloke from a university who setup a non-profit organisation to make the web easier to find stuff on... (i disagree with that now) you know a course work assignment or something.

 

Animalmagic, glad someone can confirm, and thats what i am talking about, regardless of if you are in the right or wrong, (which you were in the right)

...you surely have the right to appeal and/or question the decision. This is fraud and theft as... it is all account based, you earnt that money fair and square - so even if you were doing something wrong then surely you are entitled to get a pay cheque...

[meagain]

Microsoft declares themself as a huge corporate company who are determined to make as much profit as possible by selling software to which rivals dont even come close to them. The anti-trust competition is solely because nothing beats Windows and Office....

 

Wrong. Plenty beats Windows and Office. The anti-trust issue is more to do with Microsoft selling Windows to manufacturers for peanuts on the condition that their machines ship with Windows and nothing else (potentially crossing the line from hard bargaining to economic duress), and the bundled Web browser giving them an unfair market advantage gleaned entirely from inertia. Microsoft's product line is mixed at best - Visual Studio and the C# programming language are pretty good, IIS and Exchange are not brilliant, SourceSafe is so horrendous MS has practically disowned it, and Windows Vista has simultaneously missed the boat (with its scheduled release in 2003 originally put back to 2005) and arrived too soon (the high-spec hardware required to run it well isn't widely available).

 

Courts in the US and EU have decided that their bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows is unfair, yet the integration is so tight that Microsoft actually finds it cheaper to simply pay what is equivalent to a million dollars in fines every day than to re-engineer IE or the Windows shell to unpick the two.

[buzby]

With Web 2.0 the OS requires integration with a web browser. The fact Windows started with IE as a bolt-on is immaterial, and the EU's position remains untenable in the light of server-based applications.

[meagain]

With Web 2.0 the OS requires integration with a web browser.

 

Complete and utter poppycock. It certainly doesn't require integration to the degree that your Web browser doubles up as your shell application.

 

the EU's position remains untenable in the light of server-based applications.

 

I'm having difficulty in parsing this sentence due to it making absolutely no sense whatsoever. Can you elaborate?

[ManagingDirector]

Wrong. Plenty beats Windows and Office. The anti-trust issue is more to do with Microsoft selling Windows to manufacturers for peanuts on the condition that their machines ship with Windows and nothing else (potentially crossing the line from hard bargaining to economic duress), and the bundled Web browser giving them an unfair market advantage gleaned entirely from inertia. Microsoft's product line is mixed at best - Visual Studio and the C# programming language are pretty good, IIS and Exchange are not brilliant, SourceSafe is so horrendous MS has practically disowned it, and Windows Vista has simultaneously missed the boat (with its scheduled release in 2003 originally put back to 2005) and arrived too soon (the high-spec hardware required to run it well isn't widely available).

 

Courts in the US and EU have decided that their bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows is unfair, yet the integration is so tight that Microsoft actually finds it cheaper to simply pay what is equivalent to a million dollars in fines every day than to re-engineer IE or the Windows shell to unpick the two.

 

lol! meagain, what beats windows and office? you going to tell me linux and openoffice? hehe joker!

 

You would be ****ed off to get windows and have to download everything other then its core, ironically i have linux distributions and god damn, do you know how many programmes are included with them?!?!

 

Microsoft in Europe brought out Windows XP N, windows XP without WMP.

 

Talking of the IE debate, who started the debate off?

[mnrbig]

Windows will eventually become a niche product.

[meagain]

lol! meagain, what beats windows and office? you going to tell me linux and openoffice?

 

No, I'm going to tell you that Windows is not the best operating system out there (I'm probably making a big jump in assuming you know what an "operating system" is, and the difference between the OS and userspace programs).

 

You would be ****ed off to get windows and have to download everything other then its core, ironically i have linux distributions and god damn, do you know how many programmes are included with them?!?!

 

This statement is flawed, in that is has absolutely FA to do with the concept of anti-competitive practices on the part of Microsoft or (as was originally raised) eBay.

[demon_x_slash]

My OH prefers linux because he controls what goes into the systems he's building. He can download and customise to a high degree what this system is going to be used for, what that system will do... The only reason I stick with a PC atm is because if you're a gamer, linux will cripple you - most PC games are geared specifically towards running in Windows, and I've got a lot more to learn before I start trying to get them to work on another OS.

 

EDIT: Another anti-competition tactic from Micros***? Or games publishers too scared to break out and design a game for the game's sake, not for the money they'll make out of it? **Cough cough EA Games I'm lookin' at you cough**