Parking Eye ANPR PCN - Barnet NHS Hospital, London

[radmm0]

ParkingEye PCN - NHS Hospital Car Park v1.0redacted.pdf1 Date of the infringement 18/04/23

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 24/04/23
 

[scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'s

 

3 Date received 28/04/23
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] YES
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? YES
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] NO
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A
 

7 Who is the parking company? ParkingEye

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Barnet Hospital, London
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

BPA?

 

 

Hi guys

 

I was attending a blood test appointment at the hospital & 'paid' using the app shown on the signs in the car park, which I've used in the past and all over the borough of Barnet. 

 

I've then received the attached letter from ParkingEye a week after my visit to the hospital, which was a big surprise. 

 

I checked the 'my parking history' on the app & my Barclays bank account and unfortunately there were no entries for that date/event. 

So, the transaction I had attempted on the day using the parking app had not worked, but I didn't receive any notification or text to let me know.

 

Am I at fault, should I just pay the £60 lower 'within 14 days' charge before they increase it to £100 or is it worth making an appeal?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Rgds.

radmm0

 

 

[dx100uk]

you never pay either sum and you most certainly never appeal a speculative invoice to a parking fleecer.

 

bottom line is dont do anything regarding them until or unless you ever get a letter of claim from them with a reply pack wanting I&E details.

 

dx

 

[radmm0]

 

Thanks DX for your quick reply.  Much appreciated.

 

Rgds.

radmm0

[FTMDave]

We have had quite a few past successes in similar cases where the motorist got PALS to intervene.

 

For Barnet Hospital I've found  https://www.nhs.uk/services/service-directory/barnet-hospital/N10876828  [email protected]

 

E-mail them, tell them what happened, and request they call PE off.

 

[radmm0]

Thanks for the info Dave.

 

Rgds.

radmm0

[lookinforinfo]

The PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.  It should invite you to pay the PCN yourself as the keeper Schedule 4 Section 9 [2][e]. 

That means that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. It also means that even if you were the driver, the only person now liable to pay, PE will have their work cut out to prove that unless you tell them. Should it ever get to Court PE cannot claim that the keeper and driver are the same person. Reason being that thousands  of people are legally allowed to drive anyone else's car albeit on a third party basis. So if you do nor contact them or their hapless solicitors and their hopeless debt collectors they will have a hard job proving who was driving.

[radmm0]

Excellent, thanks for the very useful info 'LookinForInfo', brilliant news

 

Rgds.

radmm0

[brassnecked]

Just sit on hands for now as advised.  They are up the creek without knowing who is driver.

[radmm0]

Thanks for your reply & support.

 

Rgds.

radmm0

[radmm0]

hi DX

received a 'Letter BEFORE County Court Claim' with a reply pack wanting I&E details.  what should I do now?

thanks

radmm0

[dx100uk]

not been reading up in the last month then?

snotty letter time

 

dx

 

[radmm0]

hi DX

I'm a bit confused by your reply to be honest!

What's a good example of a 'snotty' letter to use please?

tnx

radmm0

[dx100uk]

what does self help mean?

 

dx

 

[lookinforinfo]

With all these parking companies there tends to be a series of actions before you get sent the letter before claim. 

It starts off with a reminder then continues with perhaps three or four Final notices and then they pass the motorist over to their unregulated scummy debt collector to send a further selection of threatening letters while unlawfully increasing the amount owed.

If that fails they send in a poor quality bunch of so called solicitors who once again threaten you trying to scare you into paying. This can last two or three years after which they or may not decide to go to Court. So that gives us and you plenty of time to look at other threads to help you understand what your situation is.

This time very unusually, PE are threatening Court very quickly without trying out a softening up policy  of getting money out of you. It also means that we have not as yet advised you to see how this parking system works and how to counteract it.

 

if you had looked at the "sticky " section of the Private land Enforcement, one of the threads relates to 

If you read it all you will see how to respond to LBC and the Snotty letter.The SN is designed to show the rogues that you aren't afraid of them or of going to Court so no point in continuing. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.  But if you can please complete the above questionnaire it will get the ball rolling.

[dx100uk]

urm is that the right sticky...no need to panic the op yet about court....

simply search snotty letter here .......

dx

[radmm0]

thanks both for your help

rgds.

radmm0

 

[lookinforinfo]

10 hours ago, dx100uk said:

urm is that the right sticky...no need to panic the op yet about court....

simply search snotty letter here .......

dx

I think it is DX. Updated 2021 and includes. A snotty response.