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    • Is the letter headed Letter of Claim/before Claim or similar? If not, it sounds like more of the threatogram chain. If you're not sure, post up an anonymised copy of the letter and we'll check. HB
    • So guess what, we have received a final demand letter for £100. It states if payment is not made by 11/06 they will have no option but to forward the case to their litigation dept with a view to commence County Court Proceedings. So just wondering if anyone has any advice. Do we ignore this? or do we need to take action? Thanks 
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    • Hello!  Wondering if someone can help with this.  I suspect not but worth a go.  I appreciate the "contract is with the seller" line, which is what Evri has fed me but wanted to see if someone with experience in these things could suggest anything else I could do here.  I appreciate there are many topics about lost parcels - My parcels weren't lost, until the driver walked up to my door with them and then decided to make them lost/stolen... I'll summarise what has happened.  Wednesday of last week - Evri delivery driver stole / walked off with 3 of my parcels.  -  Arrived outside my properly, took photos (3 separate photos as its 3 separate deliveries) of the tops of the parcels (pointlessly zoomed in on just the labels, couldn't see anything else, other than a small piece of the pavement and a little weed, which doubly confirms it was outside my door as I can see the same plant), marked the order as delivered and walked off with them.  He's marked on the Evri GPS marked that he was outside.   -  3 different deliveries, from the same company (same boxes etc.), but 3 separate tracking numbers. -  Went through the Evri bot which opened a case on each tracking number.  I then phoned them and left a voicemail explaining what had happened. -  24 hours later had a canned response asking me if the packages had turned up and to check around etc..  I responded explaining again what happened and that they've definitely been taken. -  4 days later,  this morning, I get a response telling me to ask the merchant to refund me. I've responded to this message with a long email, repeating what I said, that I believe the driver has stolen these packages and that he took those suspicious top down shots of the packages, marked them as delivered without ringing or knocking etc.  I've said that I expect them to investigate further, but I gather they won't. In my several messages to them initially and later, I told them I don't care about a refund and wanted the parcels.  They contain some sentimental stuff, nothing of high monetary value, hence me going to this trouble.  I only paid £25 for the contents. I did contact the merchant when this first happened and they asked me to wait a few days.  They ended up refunding me despite me asking them not to and that I wanted them to escalate it with Evri because this appears to be a case of theft.  They didn't seem bothered - Refunded me and told me to go back to Evri and escalate it with them? So - Is there any way to compel Evri to conduct a proper investigation with this driver?  Search for my parcels? I have quite a lot of deliveries handled by Evri (not out of choice) - They used to have a fantastic chap and I rarely had any issues.  He has been replaced by a new guy and I believe the route is handled by this same guy who I believe has taken my packages.  Naturally, I fear this is going to happen again in the future if no investigation occurs. Appreciate any assistance - Thanks for reading. Al.  
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HA ha ha ha. ELEVEN whole minutes!! Good luck Parking Lie you're on a hiding to nowhere with this one.

 

If this is local to you, can you get any photos of the entrance and all of the signage they have littered about the place.

 

Is it a retail park with multiple stores on?

 

Where did your OH shop?

 

If it was one particular store then she should contact them and demand they cancel the invoice and just how disgusting it is how they treat their customers.

 

Also pop onto the LA website and see if PE have any planning permission for the signs and cameras.

 

 

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So did your wife shop at Booths?

 

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My wife has just received Parking Charge Notice from those lovely people at Parking Eye.

The car park is a free to use car park with a 3 hour limit. She managed to stay for 3 hours and 11 minutes.

 

1 Date of the infringement
31/07/2021
 
 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]
04/08/2021
 
3 Date received
09/08/2021
 
4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]
Yes
 
5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?
Yes
 
6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]
No
 
Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up
N/A
 
7 Who is the parking company?
Parking Eye
 
8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]
Teanlowe – Booths, Poulton Le Fylde
 
For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.
BPA

 

The site is a multiple store site that is used for all the shops in the surrounding area with Booths in control of the car park ( It was a council controlled site until the Booths store was built and the car park revamped.)

Tomorrow's job is to get photo's of all the signage.

 

Booths have planning permission for the cameras and signs not Parking Lies, I don't know if that makes any difference.

 

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OK, so the Booths angle is a no no.

 

Obviously don't pay, they're essentially after her for overstaying one minute!!!

 

I agree with Bazooka Boo about the signage.  That shown on Google Earth is appalling and clearly insufficient, but dates back to 2019.  It would be good to see what signs they have up now.

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Surprisingly the other photos are half decent for once and actually get to the point about the restrictions and the charge.

 

Doesn't change that she only overstayed by a minute though!

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The signs that you posted did not mention payment at all. Just that motorists had 3 hours free parking and then had to leave. Nor was there any mention of entering the registration number.  As the car park is only an invitation to treat in any case, there is no need to for you to be concerned about that, but it is useful to use against them in your WS should it come to that.

This should help to explain-

https://www.lawteacher.net/free-law-essays/contract-law/offers-and-invitation-to-treat-contract-law-essay.php

 

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I must admit I missed PE's small print where they whittle on about inputting registration numbers, making payment and pay machines.

 

Your OH had the right to be there for three hours plus the 10-minute grace period.

 

Yes, she could easily have wasted extra time due to their confusing signage and wandered around looking for payment machines which didn't exist.

 

It should also be self-evident that if 10 minutes is an accepted grace period in normal times, then it should be longer in times of a global pandemic when social distancing means everyone takes longer to do their shopping, to enter a restaurant and respect its hygiene provisions, etc.

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yep.

 

post it up here 1st please

 

you have 30days from the date of their paploc.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yep snotty letter time 

post your snotty letter up here 1st for checking over

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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just post it here as text then we can edit if necessary

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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That's great work.  Well done on both the content and the level of snottiness.  That's exactly the sort of thing your wife should send, let them know she's sussed their sordid scheme and will be big trouble for them if they do court.  Fancy trying to charge her for overstaying for one minute!

 

Excellent "Dear Philip and Sian" research, I must confess I didn't know who ran PE, this will be something to suggest to Caggers in future PE cases!

 

If none of the other regulars object invest in a 2nd class stamp tomorrow and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.



My Road
My Town
My County
My Postcode

Date
Your Reference No.

Dear Philip and Sian,
Thanks for wasting your pennies and sending me a letter before claim. I
understand you think I owe you something.
I had a good laugh at the idea you actually really thought I'd take such tripe
seriously and cough up!
Now, you know that your claim has no basis and I know that you know that
your claim has no basis
Your can either drop this hopeless case or get a good spanking in court where I
will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and I’ll be able
spend some of your ill-gotten gains.


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