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Hi , I’ve recently been “charged” by UKCPS for stopping here on 21/9/22.

 

The truth of the matter is that I was dropping my wife off at Piccadilly and I don’t know Manchester so was following the sat nav.

 

It took me to behind piccadilly station so essentially a dead end. I stopped the car , checked the maps on the sat nav to see where I should be going and then set off again.

 

I was just lost and needed to see which way to go. I was there only a matter of minutes, no one got out of the vehicle.

 

I received this “charge” and appealed as I thought surely it’s a mistake. The appeal was rejected so I did the option of appealing with IAS ( independent right) and I’m still waiting on their response.

 

I’ve seen the images of me “ parking” and there can’t be 2 minutes between the 2 photos. 
 

I’ve only recently found this site and you all say don’t reply well I’m sorry I’ve responded once to them and once to the IAS, so there’s nothing more I can do about that.

 

I shall ignore anything else that comes through.  any and all advice welcome.

 

1.Date of infringement.     11/09/2022

2. Date on NTK.                   21/09/2022

3. Date received                  22/9/2022

 

4.Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of the protection of freedom act 2012.       Yes

 

5. Is there any photographic evidence of the event.                             Yes 

 

6. Have you appealed.         Yes 

 Have you had a response         Yes 

 

7. Who is the parking company     UKCPS Ltd

 

8. Where exactly        Gateway House, Piccadilly, Manchester  

 

9.  Appeals body.                    Independent Appeals Services ( www.ias.org)

 

 

thanks in advance 

 

Dreadloch 

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Thanks for filling in the sticky and telling us what happened so succinctly - we wish everyone who came here would do that!

 

Live & learn and all that.  Yes, appealing was a mistake, the iAS is a total kangaroo court set up by the worst of the private parking companies to always side with the parking companies.  Your appeal will fail.

 

Did you out yourself as the driver?

 

 

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OK, bad news, you have lost your POFA protection.

 

Good news, I've just done a search on the site, and we have 17 other cases for this place.  UKCPS haven't had the gonads to take any of the motorists to court.  Of course they threaten they will drop a nuclear missile on your house but when it comes to it they have shied away from court (at least so far).

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  • dx100uk changed the title to UKPCS PCN - yellow box violation - Gateway House , Piccadilly

Cause they can't enforce yellow box violations...

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No evidence here of otherwise, you can search threads as well as we can ...there are 10's of threads on this place 

 

But don't ignore a letter of claim if if if one ever comes 

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 last thought , as and when debt collects start the letters , it in no way affects my credit rating , I won’t be black listed? Can’t see anything in any other threads ( thank you all in advance)

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No such thing as a blacklist, urbanmyth.

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Can confirm I have three separate debt collection agencies after me for these and my credit rating is as immaculate as ever. 

 

There's no need to stress at all, but if you get a letter of claim (or similar wording) post here for advice. 

 

From what I've learnt from the experienced people here: the threat of court is 99.999% of the time just that. They don't want to risk the cost of court for a small financial win. And if they do eventually make you go through with it, there's a decent chance you'll win as the company will have screwed something up at some point. 

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about time you blocked emails...

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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where does it say it's a FINE please?

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Time people and the Media stopped calling these Speculative Invoices FINES, and call them what they are a Speculative Invoice that might not have any foundation.

 

Calling them Fines gives them a false impression of legitimacy, and a criminal connection when they are purely Civil founded in Contract law. With no legal requirement for a Keeper to name the driver unlike a police speeding ticket.  In fact the courts have indicated to PPC's that using Criminal cases  like Elliott v Loake in a witness statement to infer a keeper is driver is a no no

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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