UKCPS MNPR PCN PAPLOC - no stopping Gateway House Piccadilly Manchester

[crashlanding21]

Thanks again gang for your support and the forum for providing a great amount of resources!

 

sorting the "snotty letter" out this morning.  I have taken a copy from a fellow members thread.

 

 

To whom it may concern < - - Is this how you would greet them? or is another tact better?

 

 

COPIED TO UKCPS

 

I write in response to your so-called “Letter Before Claim”, received in relation to PCN Numbers GCL XXXXX and GCL XXXXX, issued by UKCPS for alleged parking breaches.

 

I am writing to confirm that I have no intention of paying these ridiculous and made-up sums of money for allegedly breaking some imaginary contract with your client.

 

Aside from the fact that I was not the driver of the vehicle, this whole claim is nonsense and I’m sure any Judge would agree.

 

Should your client wish to proceed with this farcical claim, I’ll be seeking recovery of costs based on unreasonable behaviour, as well as damages for breach of the DPA 2018.

 

I look forward to your response < - - same kind of feedback?  end like this or is there a more tried and tested method?

 

Last thing is that it is my wife on the letter before claim, of course it would be address from her as they 'presumed' it was her driving?

 

 

FTMDave, great to know that they have changed their signage, great for some ammo later down the line!

 

 

 

[FTMDave]

You're definitely on the right track ...

 

 

[crashlanding21]

thanks

 

and i appreciate taking out the numbers, i totally forgot so thank you!

 

is there anything more specific i am missing?

[FTMDave]

The snotty letter is excellent - well done!

 

Just write "Dear CST Law" at the top.

 

Don't write anything after "DPA 2018".  The whole point is you don't want an answer from them - you want them to crawl back under their stone and go after someone else who will just roll over.

 

Invest in two 2nd class stamps tomorrow and get two free Certificates of Posting from the post office.

 

Just one final thing - you were the driver but they are sending these demands to your wife, right?

 

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by FTMDave
Usual typo!

[crashlanding21]

all changes made! Thank you

 

ill get some stamps tomorrow as well as CoP.

 

yes correct, i was the driver and the demands are going to my wife..

 

Thanks!

[FTMDave]

OK, so fine to go.  Your wife sends the letter, and she states she was not the driver of the vehicle.

 

Give them both barrels!

[crashlanding21]

ok I was going to save the "i wasnt driving" ammo for any responses but do you advise to include that part in this first letter?

[FTMDave]

You've already included "Aside from the fact that I was not the driver of the vehicle".

[crashlanding21]

its been a long day!

 

apologies!

[FTMDave]

You're quite correct that you shouldn't play all your cards at the same time.  On the other hand, you need to put something in to show you've sussed their case is pants and you know the law.  I don't think there's any harm in your wife stating she wasn't the driver.

 

Later on, if they are stupid enough to do court - let's hope not! - there are another million things to hit them with.  No contract formed due to bye-laws/prohibition/POFA/carp signage/no planning permission/not being the landowner, and even if by some freak the court accepts a contract was formed you went away within the grace period, etc., etc.

[FTMDave]

Have a look at posts 3, 9 & 10 on Spannerz's thread.  He's sussed out there was another installation of new signs after you were ticketed.

[crashlanding21]

Letters have been posted so hopefully this is the end of it!

 

do they usually respond to snotty letters?

 

ill check out the other posts!

[dx100uk]

posts moved to your own thread

no good updating on someone elses thread upon your situation.....

[crashlanding21]

clicked ont he wrong link and typed....my bad!

[crashlanding21]

DX & FTMDAve,

 

In your experience, if they drop the case, are we generally notified by post or will they just not send any more paperwork?

 

i sent the letters yesterday recorded delivery just to make sure they get there, should land today!

 

thanks gang

[FTMDave]

It's nigh-on impossible that a PPC will admit to being in the wrong.

 

If they give up they just don't send any more paperwork.

 

Often they seem to give up and then a couple of years down the line dust down their files and get a different solicitor to send a different "threatening" letter.