Should we trust Sunak or the next PM to fix the Country's problems? (title revised 24/10/22)

[tobyjugg2]

Cress'll sort it for me ..

"A Metropolitan Police commander who wrote the force’s anti-drugs strategy has been sacked for failing to supply a sample over suspicions he had smoked cannabis."

"“This investigation has taken three years and cost £1.5m"

"Within his role, he had written the document ‘Dealing With The Impact Of Drugs On Communities’, which set up plans to raise “awareness of the impact of drug misuse”."

 

"“Commander Bennett was highly experienced and knew full well what was required of him, yet he made a choice not to cooperate."

"he was found guilty of gross misconduct and dismissed by the force for failing (err refusing) to provide a urine sample on July 21 2020. "

 

"After a private meeting with Assistant Commissioner Louisa Rolfe on 21 July in which he refused to take a drugs test, the tribunal was told he asked to approach then-Commissioner Cressida Dick, whom he referred to as ‘Cress’, in order to offer his resignation. "

- and presumably keep his pension etc - like Cress did?

 

Met Police chief sacked after refusing drug test over cannabis use claim

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Commander Julian Bennett was accused of smoking cannabis each morning before work

 

Corrupt through and through

[honeybee13]

Thoughts from Barack Obama on the situation in Gaza.

 

[tobyjugg2]

The Guys' a political rock star.

.. and all he's doing is admitting he doesn't have any answers - just the right questions to start a beginning.

[tobyjugg2]

just a little point re Terrorist group Hamas:

Where did they get the intel to enable the horrendous attack on Israel?

 

* Iran, Israel itself and the western powers all seemed genuinely surprised seemingly (confirmed by US/UK/EU security services)

 

it IS possible they did it themselves, but seems a stretch

- so who gave them the support?

 

Following the basic rule: Only one nation really benefits from it as far as i can see .. although a couple could benefit from the general fallout ..

[honeybee13]

This doesn't look good.

UK ‘in violation of international law’ over poverty levels, says UN envoy

UK ‘in violation of international law’ over poverty levels, says UN envoy | Poverty | The Guardian

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Exclusive: Special rapporteur Olivier De Schutter to urge ministers to...

 

[honeybee13]

So many new policies being floated at the moment. After confiscating tents from the homeless; we have this, a whole new level of extremists.

Revealed: plan to brand anyone ‘undermining’ UK as extremist | UK security and counter-terrorism | The Guardian

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Leaked documents spark furious backlash from groups who fear freedom of expression could be suppressed

 

[tobyjugg2]

With 'unl'aweful Britishness' presumably defined by the Braverman, Patels, Sunaks and Rees-Moggs of the Nation eh?

These politicians need their wings clipped - and that is all of them. They need to be made to understand that they are administrators of our nation - not its ultimate rulers with the right to define what we can say or think.

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

well, Rose resigned at any whiff of malfeasance - let alone proven or not.

When can we expect equivalent heads to roll at the ICO?

 

ICO apologises to ex-NatWest chief over claim she broke privacy law on Farage | NatWest Group | The Guardian

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Watchdog says it was ‘incorrect’ to suggest Alison Rose breached law by discussing ex-Ukip leader’s banking with journalist

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

What is Braverman trying to do? The Home Sec is meant to be neutral and to try and heal division. A lot of people think she's trying to stoke it.

And some people think she's doing it deliberately so she can be sacked and use that to start a rebel leadership campaign.

Comment from Steven Greenhalgh.

Braverman has an article in the Times today.

https://archive.ph/MAAQa

 

[tobyjugg2]

SEC (sick) Bravermann says ..

Well, we know that whatever follows is a hate filled dog whistle to the worst of our society dont we

Anyway, added bonus (in her mind) of undermining sunak whos to gutless to sack her isnt it? God knows why on either side though, Doubt shes a cat in hells chance of ever winning a Tory leadership battle, and surely one who might be badenough has more sense than have such an obvious divisive hate filled rabble rouser  monster in her cabinet

 

How safe is Bravermans seat?

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[honeybee13]

I wouldn't discount Braverman becoming leader if it's a vote by the membership. She would have the support of the ERG, it seems, which Truss did when she ran for the leadership.

Suella Braverman is the most hated woman in British politics — and far nicer than you think – POLITICO

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The UK Home Secretary is a bundle of contradictions. She might just be the next Tory leader, too.

 

[honeybee13]

In terms of having a safe seat, Braverman didn't even have a constituency in February. I'm not sure if this has been resolved now.

Suella Braverman struggling to find safe seat for next election

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The Government’s review of constituency boundaries have left the home secretary floundering to find a new seat as an MP.

 

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

I wouldn't discount Braverman becoming leader if it's a vote by the membership. She would have the support of the ERG, it seems, which Truss did when she ran for the leadership.

Suella Braverman is the most hated woman in British politics — and far nicer than you think – POLITICO

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The UK Home Secretary is a bundle of contradictions. She might just be the next Tory leader, too.

 

 

Only 'support of about 40 MPs at best though it seems - and many or most of those more 'dont want sunak' or 'want Johnson' or 'want right of right in power' aren't they - not actual Braverman devotees?

 

lets hope she simply doesn't get a seat - or better still - does and loses badly

Wonder if sunak will 'honor' her?

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[honeybee13]

I wonder if things are speeding up? According to the Times, No10 has said that Braverman's article as it was printed wasn't approved. It also says she was asked to tone down the language [but didn't].

ETA: This is being seen as a breach of the ministerial code; Downing Street isn't saying if it plans to do anything about that.

 

[theoldrouge]

Huge congratulations to Suella for saying what the silent majority who would would never think about joining disgusting disrespectful protest’s on Remembrance Weekend are saying 
At last after 13 years of deadwood a true Tory
who has upset all the right people 
The Masons,Rigbys,Pestons and OBriens of this world (and Juggs of course)
Rid the party of Sunak and Co asap
 

And let’s not forget Labour are falling apart on the same issue 

[tobyjugg2]

seems just 2 have come out in support

Not are we there yet - more 'Has she gone yet?

LOL Even with gutless Sunak ... tick tok

[honeybee13]

TOR, could you explain about the 'upsetting all the right people' idea please? It seems to be a right wing thing and I've never understood it.

[honeybee13]

Braverman seems to have upset Tory allies in Northern Ireland with yesterday's Times article.

Suella Braverman has scored a hat-trick of own goals and displayed breathtaking ignorance on Northern Ireland

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Using words like "Hamas" and "terrorist" in the same breath as "Northern Ireland" and "marches" shows blatant disregard for a fragile peace, David...

 

[tobyjugg2]

"It's honestly like reading a pound shop Enoch Powell piece"

"She has managed to offend just about everyone - no mean feat in a divided society"

even right wing deceit and hate monger Lee Anderson, the deputy chair of the Conservative Party said the home secretary is "guilty" (plus some waffling excuses trying to claim everyone is as inhuman as them of course) (reported in his own style)

"can only be described as aggressive ignorance; ignorance of the conditions faced by the civilian population in Gaza, ignorance of the role of the Met police, ignorance of the complex history and traditions of marching and protest in Northern Ireland"

"Braverman makes our country less safe. Not satisfied with inflaming tensions in London she thought she'd also light a match under Northern Ireland relations. No right-thinking prime minister would stand by her, let alone approve her copy."

 

and while braverman is trying to ban homeless people charities from giving homeless people a tent to protect them from winter, and ban people from protesting about her monstrous attempts to undermine our democracy

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Andy Burnham donates 15% of his salary to a homeless charity

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Some politicians want to hate, some want to help... When it comes to homelessness, Andy Burnham belongs in the latter camp.

 

‘She’s toast’: Suella Braverman dares Rishi Sunak with provocative rhetoric

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UK home secretary risks the sack as she builds her leadership ambitions on a foundation of controversial remarks

 

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[theoldrouge]

Read the room
Every poll has around 80% in support of Suella
the Tory wets need disposing of by their constituency’s prior to the election 

 

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Braverman is right to blast police bias | Daily Mail Online

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DAILY MAIL COMMENT: To say Suella Braverman is not afraid to make waves would be a colossal understatement.

 

[honeybee13]

80% of whom? DM readers?

[tobyjugg2]

James Johnson selective Tory right wing 'polls' trying to create opinion rather than report it  - LOL

 

"The promotion or advancement of any ideology which aims to overturn or undermine the UK’s system of parliamentary democracy, its institutions and values"

- isnt that Braverman and Yuckey-Lemon (who moved to Spain - lol) to a capital T'

 

 

I see that although the London protests calling for an end to bombing a civilian enclave is NOT going to the Cenotaph,

BUT Yuckey lemon and the far right groups - many banned for violent action are intending to, and to attack the peaceful protests as reported on their 'social' media groups - presumably hoping to force a response

 

Far-right groups and football hooligans ‘to descend on London during Palestine march’

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The most prominent far-right messaging has come from former leader of the English Defence League Tommy Robinson

 

More on braverman

"Everybody's livid, there's a lot of messaging of the chief whip saying enough is enough." -  Former Tory minister

and

“Her priority seems to be attempting to be as cruel as possible.”

“racist rhetoric”

 

A Trump tribute act

'A Trump tribute act': Meet Suella Braverman, the commander-in-chief of Britain's culture wars | CNN

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Late last year, after a breakneck ascent of British politics put her in charge of the country’s migration, crime and national security agenda, Suella...

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Irish politicians condemn Suella Braverman after Ulster comments

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Home secretary Suella Braverman compared the Ulster demonstrations to the pro-Palestine marches she said were run by ‘Islamist haters’

 

[tobyjugg2]

Number 10 could wait until after Rwanda ruling to act on Braverman - senior minister

We've heard from a senior minister today that Number 10 might be planning to "wait and see what happens" at pro-Palestine protests - and with a ruling on Rwanda - to act on Suella Braverman's op-ed.

Next Wednesday, the Supreme Court will return its judgement on whether or not the deportation of asylum seekers to Rwanda is lawful.

- Beth Rigby

 

So if bravermans apparent attempts to ferment violence at the cenotaph come to fruition .. and/or undermine further Rowley so they can try to appoint another cress ..

or the Rwanda scheme doesn't get declared unbritish and illegal ..

... by which time Sunak will have lost any remaining shreds of credibility anyway

 

BUT consider - what other play do the Tories have other than trying to rouse the rabbble and try to 'Trump like' undermine the next election in every way they can?

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

If the Rwanda plan is ruled against by the Supreme Court, Braverman will start a new campaign about leaving the ECHR.

[tobyjugg2]

 - which will also undermine the good friday agreement among many other things including the remnants of the UK's international standing

 

Mind you, they will be hoping for a Trump win to enable them to get yet another really really really crap trade deal for the UK wont they, although undoubtedly the Tory doners will benefit