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    • I apologise if I was being unclear. Where it currently stands is that they will have it repair, placing scaffolding in our garden for 5 days. They have moved fast, but we will still have to postpone our contractors, meaning, we won't necessarily have the work done in time for the wedding and therefore will incur additional expenses for either a marquee or a wedding venue. They are vehemently against having any kind of liability in any regard but continue repeating that they are legally entitled to use our garden for their repairs (I believe this is true unless the work can be carried out using a cherry picker). The neighbour seems either indifferent or oblivious to the fact they can't reach all of the side of the roof from the space where they can place the scaffolding. They have asked their roofer of choice about using a cherry picker but the roofer has said it wasn't possible. It's not clear whether the roofer doesn't want to use a cherry picker or whether there is an issue with it. They have told us it is a problem that we are installing a gazebo as it will prevent them to access their roof from our garden in the future?!?  
    • Couldn't agree more, really wanted a true ruling on this just for the knowledge but pretty sure the Judge made some decisions today that he didn't need to?.. maybe they all go this way on the day? We hear back so few post court dates I'm not sure. Each Judge has some level of discretion. Their sol was another Junior not even working at their Firm, so couldn't speak directly for them! that was fortunate I think because if she would have rejected in court better, she might have  been able to force ruling, we are at that point!, everybody there!!, Judge basically said openly that he can see everything for Judgement!!!  but she just said "I can speak to the claimant and find out!" - creating the opportunity for me to accept. I really think the Judge did me a favor today by saying it without saying it. Knowing the rep for the sol couldn't really speak to the idea in the moment. Been to court twice in a fortnight, on both occasions heard 4 times with others and both of my claims, the clerk mention to one or both parties "Letting the Judge know if you want to have a quick chat with each other"! So, it appears there's an expectation of the court that there is one last attempt at settling before going through the door. So, not a Sol tactic, just Court process!. Judge was not happy we hadn't tried to settle outside! We couldn't because she went to the loo and the Judge called us in 10 minutes early! - another reason to stand down to allow that conv to happen. Stars aligned there for me I think. But yeh, if the sol themselves, or someone who can make decisions on the case were in court, I would have received a Judgement against today I think. She was an 'advocate'.. if I recall her intro to me correctly.. So verbal arguments can throw spanners in Court because Plinks dogs outsource their work and send a Junior advocate.
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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
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but .. at the moment I really do think its Mosley like division and strive they are seeking to foment and the 'emergency powers' they could implement based on it

 

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Moseley? Laughable comment coming from someone quoting “peaceful marches “ despite poppy sellers being intimidated and attacked and many arrested on previous occasions 
Makes you sound more like Lord Haw Haw by the minute 

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Mosley/fascist type policies and actions might be 'laughable to some, but not to decent British people.

Sunak will no doubt drop the blame on Braverman where it should be if it all goes anus over apex - but will just be promoting himself where he can - rather than addressing it in a 'timely and statesmanlike manner as he should.

Likely hopes to get rid of Rowley and braverman and point the blame at them and install a more cress'like . Be interesting (in an awful way) to see if sunak makes something for himself out of it other than 'we need more of a police state to keep us safe'

 

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Good point that I had missed as it is all about them and maintaining their positions, not proper governance ..

 

A Guardian reader asks:

If Suella Braverman resigns, what effect do you think that will have on Sunak’s government? Will it look hypocritical to sack her (if he does it on the basis of the ministerial code), having re-hired her after breaking it?

If Rishi Sunak does sack Suella Braverman, Labour and others may argue that this shows he was wrong to appoint her in the first place.

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So you think Suella who’s husband is himself Jewish would invoke the spirit of Moseley
( in the house that I lived in as a child Moseleys band used to March by on a Saturday afternoon so I witnessed Moseley and his unsavoury mob at first hand)have you the slightest idea what Moseley stood for?
You also invoke Enoch ,a man I was privileged to meet and have dinner with on several occasions, so I will let Enoch answer you in his own words 
 

“A minority in Britain have rendered the majority  passive and helpless by a devilshly simple, yet devilshly subtle, technique. This, is to assert manifest absurdities as if they were self‐evident truths.”

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“A minority in Britain have rendered the majority  passive and helpless by a devilshly simple, yet devilshly subtle, technique. This, is to assert manifest absurdities as if they were self‐evident truths.”

Yes - the extreme Right wing Tory/Farage type minority, like Patel, Braverman, Johnson, Anderson, Truss and their ilk and their supporters with their hate filled dog whistles built on untruths, deceits and outright lies

 

You have given quite a precise description of Vote leave, Johnson, and the current Right wing and even mainstream of Tory politics that has driven the decline of Britain and the British spirit for the last 10 years or more

.. and I have little doubt the extreme left wing Corbynistas would be any better if they had gained power .. as those under Stalin experienced.

 

Its long past time BOTH extremes were driven out of mainstream politics.


 

 

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Worth a read for some actual background .. rather than TOR carping on claiming others are carping on

 

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Force’s commissioner has risked it all before – and now his job is on the line for rejecting demands to ban pro-Palestine march

 

I'm sure TOR for one will disagree ...

"Suella's lack of empathy makes sense once one understands the whole of mankind, met included, is on her left."

"5% of Londons Homeless are veterans"

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The home secretary has tried to co-opt Armistice Day while attacking those who live in tents, but 5% of London’s homeless population are veterans

 

 

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Outbreaks of disorder by far right marr Armistice Day

Outbreaks of disorder marred Armistice Day as hundreds of football fans and members of the far right gathered by the Cenotaph on Whitehall.

A number of them explicitly stated that they had come because of Home Secretary Suella Braverman’s comments over pro-Palestinian “hate marches” and that police treated them unfavourably compared to “politically correct minority groups.”

Former EDL founder Tommy Robinson was among a number of far right figures present.

In the build up to the two-minute silence elements of the crowd broke down metal gates to get closer to the Cenotaph.

Later, dozens of those present could be seen - some holding Israeli flags - attempting to reach the pro-Palestinian march with the Met’s Territorial Support Group intercepting them.

Mark Townsend

 

 

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The pro-Palestinian peace march went nowhere near the Cenotaph - this is the far right rabble empowered by Braverman (they allege)

 

 

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Quite clear the far right are the instigators and sources of the disorder and violence

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"The British political class, and right wing hate press, have spent the last week screaming about a "hate march" threatening to desecrate the Cenotaph"

Today their far right 'supporters delivered JUST THAT ...

 

 

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I would normally agree HB, but I've seen the videos, including some from far right supporters - as they happened

- so I feel little need to wait for those same far right to attempt to again rewrite what is history, and am quite sure what I quoted and said is true.

 

That the far right did less damage than they intended seems clear, but that is most assuredly NOT to their or Bravermans credit.

I'm no supporter of the met, but it seems to me Rowley has done a magnificent job despite all the traps and hindrances set in his path.

 

Even the Telegraph

 

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Remembrance ceremony, as confrontations between far-Right protesters and police broke out elsewhere, was solemn and moving

 

 

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Palestinian supporters marched through London on Saturday, as right-wing counter-protesters clashed with police.

 

"LONDON — Palestinian supporters marched peacefully through central London  on Saturday, even as right-wing counter-protesters clashed with police"

Tomorrow, of course, is another day ..

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and on another front

 

Private UK health data donated for medical research shared with insurance companies

Observer investigation reveals UK Biobank opened its biomedical database to insurance firms despite pledge it would not do so

the database contains millions of blood, saliva and urine samples – along with medical records, scans, wearable device data and lifestyle information.

 

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Observer investigation reveals UK Biobank opened its biomedical database to insurance firms despite pledge it would not do so

 

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So as per usual Jugg jumps in and takes as gospel the leftie output of the BBC and SLY NEWS 
sure there was a few football unfans spoiling for a fight with the police,what’s new?, nothing to see there
But of course what he fails to comment on is the racist anti semitic chants , the signs supporting Hamas, the placards with the Star of David and swastica and police having to protect worshippers leaving synagogues 
As Suella said today this cannot and will not be allowed to continue 

Interesting what happened in France today don’t you think?  
 

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Far-right leader Marine Le Pen takes part, alongside major parties but the far left refuses.

 

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In an exclusive interview at the Élysée Palace in France, he called for ceasefire in Gaza as there is no justification for bombing.

Macron calls on Israel to stop killing Gaza's women and babies

 

 

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The US president spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as violence continues.

 

 

As Salmonella Braverman doubles down on NOT blaming the far right for disruption and hate at the Cenotaph

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Party loyalty would force Conservatives to vote against plan for fiscal responsibility

 

Labour motion to ban Truss-style budget meltdowns puts pressure on Tory MPs

Party loyalty would force Conservatives to vote against plan for fiscal responsibility

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I’d like to report a gang of extremists who are undermining British values

the same extremist organisation, apparently intent on destroying national morale,

has turned our rivers into open sewers;

allowed schools to face bankruptcy while their buildings collapse through lack of maintenance;

undermined the NHS until it is thrown into permanent crisis;

excluded millions from economic life, leaving them underhoused and dependent on food banks;

failed to prevent the involvement of organised criminals in the waste disposal industry;

allowed the City of London to become the world’s major entrepot for money-laundering and corrupt transactions;

promoted the extraction of fossil fuels during a climate emergency;

and enabled blatant profiteering during a national health emergency.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/10/michael-gove-extremists-british-values-morale-democracy-hatred

 

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LOL LOL LOL

Desperate times -...

"Downing Street announced on Monday that Cameron would join the government, accepting a peerage in order to do so"

So still chronyism

A little reminder of the depth and breadth of Salmonellas 'failings' and self entitlement even from Fox (including her widespread failings on reducing immigration - despite shouting so much hatred)

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Suella Braverman, a British interior minister, claims she did not try to pull strings to get out of a speeding ticket. She received a fine and demerit...

 

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British Interior Minister Suella Braverman was accused of pulling strings to get out of a speeding ticket. She denies these claims and will not face an...

Of course the record immigration figures she has resided over are not EU people .. and aren't EU migrant WORKERS who so benefited our economy

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The rise is driven by non-EU students and people fleeing conflict and persecution in Hong Kong and Ukraine.

 

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Well you lefties should be breaking open the champagne 
The globalist coup is complete 
By bringing back the deadest of the deadwood 
( equivalent to Labour bringing back the B Liar creature)
the Tories are well and truly going to be obliterated at the election and deservedly so
 

Lets just hope Suella and Co cause as much trouble as possible from the sidelines 

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