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It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. 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It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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53 minutes ago, TIMTOM said:

Is this ok for my defence?  Do I have to attach the letters I have received since 
December 2018

 

The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature which fails to comply with CPR 16.4.  The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [removed - HB]

2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant.

3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 

 

4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant.

 

5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 

 

6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.

 

 

Do I need to mention that I no longer own that car. I replaced it on 17 January 2019, but kept my number plate.

 

you dont file exhibits with a defence

No you dont need to add anything about the car

simply copy and paste to defence section of mcol

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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as long as you meet 4pm tomorrow doesn't matter do it now if you wish.

 

then you seriously need to read a good few 10's of PCN claimform threads here on CAg to get upto speed - so you know what is to come - how to react as the differing stages of the claim progress. 

 

but you never do anything without checking here FIRST!

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you.  Am I just looking at general private parking threads or specific to Bradfield Road Sheffield?  What is the best way to view these?

 

 

Hi I have copied and pasted my defence on the MCOL site.  Just a couple of questions - do I click "No"   to Do you want to issue a counterclaim?   Also, do I fill in my phone no. and email address on the "My Defence -  Service Details " page? 

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no counterclaim

give all your details

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi I have copied and pasted my defence on the MCOL site.  Just a couple of questions - do I click "No"   to Do you want to issue a counterclaim?   Also, do I fill in my phone no. and email address on the "My Defence -  Service Details " page? 

Thank you. 

 

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please stop sending emails to the private email address given for pers info only now

post any updates directly to this thread now 

 

ie what you have just sent regarding planning permission. timtom.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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This is the reply I received from my local Council when I requested confirmation that HIGHVIEW PARKING had received planning permission for erecting poles, signs and cameras.

 

”Hi

 

There is no record of planning permission having been submitted. They may not however require permission as certain structures can be erected under the general permitted development order.

 

Regards

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The Notice to Keeper that they sent you a few days after you parked in Bradfield Road car park is not PoFA compliant.

 

Very strange that there is absolutely no mention that you would be liable as the keeper if the driver did not pay the PCN within the 28 day limit. That means that you must be careful not to reveal who was driving and they are now going to have an uphill struggle since they have to prove that you were the driver on that day.

 

Given that anyone with their own car insurance can drive your car plus you may have named drivers on your policy and the fact that Court do not assume that the driver and the keeper are the same person , Highview have their work cut out.

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That is good news for you. They cannot take you to Court as the keeper since they have lost that facility now. They can still pursue you as the driver but now very difficult for them to prove you were the driver as there are so many combinations of drivers it could be and the Court will not allow the robbers to assume that the keeper is the driver .

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Hi again.

 

I have now received 'Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track'

 

A questionnaire is attached with the first section 
"A" Settlement/Mediation - suggesting each party negotiate a settlement rather than taking the case to Court.

 

"A1" - Do you agree to this case being referred to the Small Claims Mediation Service?     YES / NO

 

"B"  -  Contact Details:

 

"C" -  Track.

"C1" - Do you agree that the small claims track is the appropriate track for this case?    YES / NO

If no, say why not and state the track to which you believe it should be allocated.

 

"D" - Hearing venue

"D1"  At which County Court hearing centre would you prefer the small claims hearing to take place and why?

"D2"  -  Expert Evidence - Are you asking for the court's permission to use the written evidence of an expert?     YES / NO

"D3" -  Witnesses - How man witnesses, including yourself, will give evidence on your behalf at the hearing? .............

"D4" - Hearing -  Are there any days within the next 6 months when you, an expert or a witness will not be able to attend court for the hearing?

(box to fill in with dates not available).

"Will you be using an interpreter at the hearing either for yourself or a witness?   Yes / No

"Signature" .................................

 

Most of the details requested are self explanatory but I thought I would ask your advice regarding whether Mediation or Small Claims Track should be selected.  There are no witnesses as I don't know who was actually driving on this particular day.  

 

Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 


 

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should be reading up timtom as advised so you know what to do and whats next

please try and self help!! all PCN claimform threads have the info of this and going forward...

 


https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/347310-legal-n180-directions-questionnaire-small-claims-track-correct-at-sept-2016/#comment-5088148

3 copies

NO to mediation 

1 wit you

the rest is obv

1 to the court

1 to sols (omit phone/sig/email)

1 for your file

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry Dx.  I thought you had said don't complete anything without asking on this forum first.

  I have tried to view directions questionnaires on the link you posted and on other links over the last few weeks  but they seem to be locked as no one has commented recently, or the ones that aren't are for mediation.   

 

You said omit signature - The last box states:  You must sign this form.     Should I sign or not?

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Not on sols copy

 

if you search

pcn+claimform

in our search of the top red banner, most if not all have the same n180 instructions. 

 

Yes of course always check, which is how we pickup silly mistakes..as i pointed out in pcn claims you'll see you never agree to mediation and not sure where you got the no witness from either??  Not on cag i hope! Its says INCLUDING yourself..so its 1..you!

 

its small claims and always is..

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you are not a pain...couldn't careless ...but you might eventually find yourself in front of a judge possibly asking you questions..now is the time to get into the habit of understanding things, why you are doing xyz and why you will do and state other things in the future as the claim progresses, better to wise up now rather than 10mins before a judge time..... 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I'm getting worried now!

 

Forgot to mention  I never received any of the documentation I requested from Highview.  I sent the request recorded delivery.

 

I was feeling quite positive that I wouldn't be going to Court when I read the following comments in  November

 

"The Notice to Keeper that they sent you a few days after you parked in Bradfield Road car park is not PoFA compliant.

 

Very strange that there is absolutely no mention that you would be liable as the keeper if the driver did not pay the PCN within the 28 day limit. That means that you must be careful not to reveal who was driving and they are now going to have an uphill struggle since they have to prove that you were the driver on that day.

 

Given that anyone with their own car insurance can drive your car plus you may have named drivers on your policy and the fact that Court do not assume that the driver and the keeper are the same person , Highview have their work cut out."

 

"That is good news for you. They cannot take you to Court as the keeper since they have lost that facility now. They can still pursue you as the driver but now very difficult for them to prove you were the driver as there are so many combinations of drivers it could be and the Court will not allow the robbers to assume that the keeper is the driver" .

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yet again, this shows us that you've done ZERO reading up on PCN claimform threads here.

 

cause if you had, you'd know that they don't HAVe to disclose ANYTHING until the witness statement stage, when if they fail to there, they'll lose the case.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Believe me, I have really tried to read up on the PCN claimform threads.  I click on "Motoring on the red bar, then Private Land Parking Enforcement and then  I am reading the threads.  I haven't seen any so far that relate to an actual court case.  Where am I going wrong?

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