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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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Its the 'nuclear' option of Johnson calling a general election (which the tories would almost certainly lose in a BIG way at the moment) thats undoubtedly holding many in check at the moment, although I think they are beginning to realise that they are going to need a fair bit of time to undo Johnsons, 'excesses, and that doing so will actually lose them some supporters to gain a chance of being elected.

- That many of the current ministers wouldn't continue to be ministers even under a ruling but changed Tory leadership with all their attendant multiple fabulously paid  'advisory roles' in the private sector at risk - holds others back.

 

As things are, I think labour will be the largest party, regaining about 80+ seats, with the Tories losing that many plus perhaps another 25-40 to the libs. it should be far more than that. but i don't underestimate the stupidity/lazyness of a significant portion of the UK electorate.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Had to post this one from a tweet by Big Dave Horne🤣

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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Such an embarrassment to have someone pretending to be a British PM who

* Lies,

* Cheats,

* Spins others misery to his own ends

* Protects water companies literally pouring excrement into British waterways and profits in shareholders pockets .. and even those millions of liters are less than the excrement he spouts

* Whips his party to protect corrupt pals

* Whips his party to leasve British kids hungry why trying to get someone to pay 150,000 quid for a treehouse for his ?latest? offspring.

* Protects energy companies excess profits until forced to tax them, then uses the extra taxation to fund more fracking and fossil fuel drilling

 

*** Bad as he looks, doesn't look bad enough to equate to the lying, self-serving, cheating ****** he actually is.

 

More than an embarrassment, hes an utter shame on us all.

 

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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He is as nasty as the excrement being dumped into the waterways TJ

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Worse - as that is just one of his many many failings

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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From Newsnight's Lewis Goodall on Twitter.

 

NEW: Deputy Chief Whip Chris Pincher has resigned saying “last night I drank far too much. I’ve embarrassed myself and other people.” Conservative Party now without a Chairman and a Deputy Chief Whip.

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Current Government is coming to an end ?.  Has the same feeling as John majors Tory party  in around 1995. Once a party has been the Government for 3 terms, then people start to become dissolutioned and want change.

 

Can Labour under Starmer win a majority in same way as Blair did in 1997  ?

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I know what you mean about the end of the Major era. I think it's more likely to be an electoral coalition than Labour on its own, at the moment they don't seem to have enough of a margin.

 

This could be tricky if the PM goes for the nuclear option and calls an early election. Some Tories are orried he could do that so any election happens before the privileges committee has been able to report back on whether the PM deliberately lied to parliament.

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Not the first time for Pincher is it?

 

Johnson has a rock and a VERY hard place problem now.

calling a general election has two risks

1. The tories (as seems likely) lose the election and Johnson is no longer PM

2. Johnson loses his seat (as also seems likely) and he is neither PM or MP

 

If he doesn't call an election, he keeps his MP and PM position (as even if he is found to have mislead parliament (lol how many times?)).

He wont resign whatever happens - and deposing seems rather unlikely - too many depend on him for their position

Note the issues are only as they affect Johnson - nowt else matters to him

 

The Tories seem to hope that the electorate just forget about all the many many lies/corruption/sleaze/economic collapse/being unable to eat or heat etc etc and vote them all back in.

 

..

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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I like your option 2. :)

 

It seems to me they're underestimating the public. Nearly two-thirds of voters want him gone and they aren't getting less angry about partygate, even if HMG are trying to pretend Covid has gone away. The constant drip-feed of sleaze isn't helping and I'm sure there's plenty more to come.

 

A thought on Chris Pincher: if he's done the right thing by resigning, how does that leave the PM who was caught in a very compromising position in his office? By an MP who some people say was knighted later on.

 

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Thats the issue though ... the Tories seem to utterly believe that if they can put partygate behind them then all the other stuff like attempting to protect corruption (MPs, organised crime/police or oligarchs), pouring doodoo into waterways (excrement or fracking pollution) and British people unable to heat or eat doesn't matter.

 

... let alone voting rights, legal support or even the right to protest their corruption

 

Removing free health care and schooling next?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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regarding pincher, i see the also-rans are out excusing him

 

* His morals were considered by Johnsons cabinet morals team - LOL

* Its down to the electorate in the end  (but he isnt going to go back to them until a general election)

 

No questions about

* are Johnsons cabinet office (lack of) morals crew not being sacked as they said it was fine for a previous offender to be put in that position to offenbd again ... yet again?

- Why have multiple ethics advisors quit .. and why was their recommendations ignored giving honest people little option other than quit?

- Is the party recalling him to actually put this issue to the electorate as you keep saying that its their ultimate cecision?

 

and why aren't these 'interviewers' asking these questions in anything other than an easily ignored way.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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A bill of rights is a great idea - unless its defined by corrupt serve serving populists

.. in which case it should be called a  bill restricting rights, or more simply a Bill of Wrongs

 

I see pincher the pincher has now been suspended ... pending an attempt to delay/whitewash 'investigation' (like last time)

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Pincher says he's going to get professional help now. Possibly taking his own advice as given to other MPs who are in trouble.

 

Changing the subject, this quote from the Chinese embassy is embarrassing for the government, at least it ought to be.

 

 

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I wonder how the PM's weekend is going.

 

So far I've seen stories about him using a government plane to fly his wife and children back from Cornwall, an NAO investigation into the 40 hospitals he promised and hasn't made much progress on, another MP saying they were groped by Chris Pincher and threatening MPs with deselection if they vote to change the rules of the 1922 committee for the timing of confidence votes.

 

And the Daily Mail have dropped him.

 

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Owner intervenes as previously loyal paper is expected to criticise PM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10976899/Rebel-Tories-threatened-deselection-change-allowing-new-confidence-vote-Boris-Johnson.html

 

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I was quite surprised  (err astonished) to hear even conservativehome editorial staff speaking rather negatively about him and his 'policies' on mainstream TV news programs.

That Johnson has a shrinking band of supporters .. who he needs to protect .. in a query on the pincher

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

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But Johnson is NOT a Conservative in the accepted context, he is a feckless chancer out solely for himself,  he and his father promote Eugenics and Population Control, whilst knocking out sprogs with different women not  his wife at the time

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Tory men do not have particular problem with sexual harassment

- Therese Coffey

 

Carefully chosen words perhaps? They sure don't Coffey do they:

Sexually harass/abuse - intimidate the victim ... or whitewash if that fails - no problemo.

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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This is a surprise. The Telegraph has an article that acknowledges some of the economic downsides of Brexit.

 

'Small wonder that the Government still refuses to commission an economic impact assessment of Brexit; the findings would not reflect well on our exit deal.'

 

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Perhaps feel safe now that Starmer seems to be writing off close EU ties let alone a fresh referendum. Gutless Piers Morgan

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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but HB, he's lying to them all.

I don't think he can do any different

 

Thats likely to be his defense

 - I really believed the doodoo I kept pulling out of my own backside - ask anyone - everyone knows I'm a lying incompetent sociopath with no sense of honesty or honor. How could I know different.

 

.. Although his close associates will claim in their defense - How were we to know he was a lying incompetent sociopath with no sense of honesty or honor - we believed him.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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