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MET ANPR PCN - overstay - Brocklebank retail park,SE7 7SE (London)


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Dear Caggers,

 

Today (23rd January 2020), I received a PCN from MET Parking Services, Here are the specifics:

Date of contravention: 28th Dec 2019

Date of issue of this notice: 20th January 2020

Maximum permitted stay: 180 Mins

Length of stay: 225 Mins

Date I received notice: 23rd January 2020 (Today)

 

I have been notified of this fine almost 26 days later, is this allowed for such a long time lapse?

 

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1 Date of the infringement

● 28th Dec 2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

● 20th Jan 2020 (i do not have a scanner)

 

3 Date received 

●23rd Jan 2020

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

●No

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

●Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

●No

 

7 Who is the parking company?

●Met parking services

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Brocklebank retail park,SE7 7SE (London)

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

● They state that they are a creditor and i must appeal to them in the first instance, failing that, then i can appeal to POPLA (IAS)

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

●IAS

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

●No, just recieved notice to registered keeper today (23rd January 2020)

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ntk to PDF as asked please

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to MET ANPR PCN - overstay - Brocklebank retail park,SE7 7SE (London)

oh one point from post 1 

it is not a fine

it's a speculative invoice for breaking some imaginary contract you entered into by entering the car park.

 

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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thread tidied

the reason you could upload is you sent several scans of +2md directly to screen.

 

all sort.

 

the NTK is out of time for an ANPR captures.

 

not sure why you've got to reply to them at all.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yep

until/unless you get a letter of claim from one of their favourite paperwork only fake/tame solicitor.

 

no harm in reading a few threads here mind

you'll soon get the idea.

 

dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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there is no keeper liability because they have failed to follow the protocols of the POFA.

MET always get this wrong but hope you dont know about it.

This menas that if you do not respond you cant drop yourself in it by admitting who was driving

so let them waste their time and money writing silly letters.

 

Now you can sue them for breach of the GDPR for telling lies to obtain your keeper details and by procesing the data once they have obtained it. i would leave that for the moment though, something to threaten them with later if they are stupid enough to want to take this further than meaningless letter writing.

 

in the meanwhile get some pictures of the entrance to the land and the signage there so we can determine if they have got other things wrong as well

 

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  • 1 month later...

They have written to me again, with a 'Parking charge notice reminder' stating that the payment is overdue and has increased to £100 (from £60) and i must pay within 14 days otherwise they are escalating the case through solicitor/debt recovery agents to secure immediate payment or the issuing of court proceedings.

 

Also reminding me that any appeal to POPLA is no longer available.

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They wrote 'Please can you ensure the charge is paid within 14 days of the date of this letter to avoid the matter escalating through the instruction of solicitors/debt recovery agents to secure immediate payment or the issuing of court proceedings.'

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as post 13...

 

where's the photo's you were asked to get over a month ago?

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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7 hours ago, confusedbunny said:

They wrote 'Please can you ensure the charge is paid within 14 days of the date of this letter to avoid the matter escalating through the instruction of debt recovery agents.'

 

Given that "debt recovery agents" can do nothing as its not their debt, that's about as scary as writing "cough up or I'll get my cousin's toddler to stick her tongue out at you".

 

These chancers rely on people not knowing the law - once you do know the law, it's evident they're just paper tigers. 

 

 

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READ IT PROPERLY...A DCA CANT EVEN RECOMMEND SOAP POWDER to you (oopps caps)

doesnt say WILL anywhere.

 

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 3 months later...

Its been quite for a while, now recieved a letter from a new company CST Law, stating debt is now £170 and to pay. 

 

'We have been instructed by Debt recovery plus ltd, as the agent of MET Parking services ltd in relation to the above debt'

'Our client has the right to commence court proceedings against you.....' etc

 

'The supreme court case of Beavis v parking eye (2015) confirmed the lawfulness of private parking charges under civil law'

 

and it continues......

 

Do i just continue to ignore it? Has DRP sold my debt to this new company?

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On 27/01/2020 at 20:41, dx100uk said:

yep

until/unless you get a letter of claim from one of their favourite paperwork only fake/tame solicitor.

 

no harm in reading a few threads here mind

you'll soon get the idea.

 

dx

 

almost a year ago we said^^^

 

if you read the letters properly you'll see they state our client xxx...who is..

 

speculative invoices are never sold on

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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