Mutating Corona Virus

[tobyjugg2]

err -

EU fruit pickers, lorry drivers, uk/NI trade, uk/eu trade, London Financial markets ...

Farmers, fishermen, supermarket shelves, wartime footing christmass prospects (grow your own)

 

What on earth gives you the slightest reason to think ripping off peoples privacy would get a pass just because it would cause non-right wing 'fwee marketers' severe problems due to losing international standing and trade?

 

Literally all that is absolutely nothing compared to some extra money in their tax haven pockets ..

 

even right wing conservatives are starting to balk as their traditional businesses (see above) get smashed..

Edited August 26, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

16 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

Literally all that is absolutely nothing compared to some extra money in their tax haven pockets ..

 

 

In fact it starting to seem not even that

They are happy to see UK 'competition' destroyed leaving the UK dependent of outside 'businesses' with no pesky rules and regulations needed ..

 

Johnson is literally doing a 'hannibal lector' on the veins of UK business - ripping their veins so wide they will bleed to death before help can get there

.. and hes doing it to the nations finances as well - bleeding it dry

Edited August 26, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Heres another example

Spent 100's millions on crap PPE through pals pubs, and millions upon millions in middlemen fees to buy stuff from China anyone could buy through alibaba, but cant even keep the NHS in blood sample bottles

Not enough profit for pals in it

 

GPs and hospitals to limit blood tests in England due to bottle shortage | NHS | The Guardian

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NHS says lack of plastic bottles for samples will worsen and last ‘for a significant period’

Edited August 26, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

BMA's press release about the shortage of test tubes yesterday.

 

'We are at a very perillous point'.

 

BMA says doctors will have to make very difficult choices about which patients get blood tests as the shortage of blood tubes worsens - BMA media centre - BMA

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Press release from the BMA

 

[tobyjugg2]

 

"The best way to slow further mutations and control the current strains of COVID-19 is to get vaccinated and continue to practice social distancing and masking, as appropriate."

 

What is C.1.2, the new Covid variant in South Africa, and should we be worried? | Health | The Guardian

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The C.1.2 variant has scientists’ attention because it possesses mutations within the genome similar to those seen in variants of interest, like Delta

 

Here’s What We Know About C.1.2.—South Africa’s New, Highly Mutated Covid Variant

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Scientists warn the variant may be more transmissible and could have the potential to evade vaccines, but it is still being investigated and makes up...

 

New COVID-19 Variant C.1.2 Sparking International Concern

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A new variant, C.1.2. is causing public health experts worldwide to keep an eye out for its presence as it seems to be more infectious and even more...

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

On 29/08/2021 at 11:45, honeybee13 said:

BMA's press release about the shortage of test tubes yesterday.

 

'We are at a very perillous point'.

 

BMA says doctors will have to make very difficult choices about which patients get blood tests as the shortage of blood tubes worsens - BMA media centre - BMA

WWW.BMA.ORG.UK

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Press release from the BMA

 

 

I thought handcocks coffee cup and pizza box manufacturing pub mate had been awarded £millions in a ppe contract for medical grade tubes/containers?

 

or have alibaba and the chinese manufacturers had enough of not being paid for what they've supplied already?

... let alone the bad press of being a pawn associated with the populist crony network - which doesn't pay anyone except the populist middlemen?

Edited August 31, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

On 06/08/2021 at 15:27, tobyjugg2 said:

Indications are that B.1.621 is even worse

 

Now named the Mu variant

[honeybee13]

So halfway through the Greek alphabet already.   I wonder what happens if they run out of letters?

[tobyjugg2]

Government in dispute over ‘not fit for purpose’ PPE costing £1.2bn

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Taxpayers’ money ‘abused’ says Labour, as health department considers legal action against firms

 

[honeybee13]

Quite right, they should get public money back if the kit's useless or didn't even arrive. It's a shame they seem to have paid everything up front.

[honeybee13]

The NHS data grab has been postponed as we know, but GPs are still worried about patient data.

 

Why some concerned GPs paused the NHS ‘data grab’

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While government plans to start sharing patient data this week have been halted, some doctors and campaigners remain...

 

The NHS talks about 'saving lives' but I've never really understood what kind of research they mean. Can anyone enlighten me please?

[tobyjugg2]

There isnt any for this unless you think anyone a particular government thinks OK (and we know who these shysters favour)

There are already mechanisms in place to allow proper agreed and safeguarded sharing of data for registered projects.

 

This is just a 'the private sector wants all your data to do what they like with with only chocolate fire-guard safeguards

[tobyjugg2]

Now this is truly scary (the shape of future NHS in populist OR Tory hands?)

 

Drug-resistant infections have increased in hospitals during the pandemic. - The New York Times

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Hard-to-treat bacteria are thriving on reused protective equipment, intravenous lines and medical equipment like ventilators, federal officials...

 

 

"The development, reported on Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, came about in part because drug-resistant bacteria thrived on reused protective equipment, intravenous lines and medical equipment like ventilators."

 

That these aren't being properly sterilised after use ....

Edited September 3, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Indeed, scary.

[tobyjugg2]

On a more positive note

 

Vaccine for treating cancer made possible using Oxford COVID vaccine technology

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A new publication from Benoit Van den Eynde's group has shown that a viral vector cancer vaccine generates effective anti-tumour immune responses...

 

[tobyjugg2]

They are catching up at last - international (mostly illegal) rare animal markets most probable source of coronavirus species jumping to other animals and humans - as posited here long ago.

 

Farmed carnivores may become ‘disease reservoirs’ posing human health

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Farming large numbers of carnivores, like mink, could allow the formation of undetected ‘disease reservoirs’, in which a pathogen could spread to many...

 

Edited September 3, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Trump loyalists team up with anti-vax doctors for ‘health and freedom’ tour | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Michael Flynn a key speaker on ‘ReAwaken America’ tour that critics say has profoundly negative effects for democracy and public health

 

Perhaps there'll be a survivors reunion tour next year?

 

[tobyjugg2]

Mind you, they should get around the country at a right gallop

.. after taking Ivermectin

.... only trouble is Ivermectin kills parasites (not that I'm suggesting they all are ..)

Edited September 3, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Ivermectin is supposed to be for worming horses, isn't it?

[tobyjugg2]

Facebook paid ads are promoting a horse drug as a COVID cure

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Paid adverts, Marketplace listings and closed groups are promoting a discredited drug. The experts say it's not a cure, and people shouldn't use it...

 

 

Targeting the USA

Edited September 3, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Care workers in England leaving for Amazon and other better-paid jobs | Care workers | The Guardian

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Retailer is luring staff with 30% higher wages, while some workers object to the sector’s ‘no jab, no job’ policy

 

 

anti-vax lies and the current environment with a government that thrives .. exists .. based on lies are clearly adding to the concern here

.. Although there may be some valid concerns for a small minority, Is a chunk of it that the poopulists (seems a more appropriate name given what they constantly spout) daren't offend their ant-vax/poopulist nutter base?

 

Consider this:

I know that infections are rife in local care homes, who have had no visitors for months due to lockdowns, yet outbreaks continue. Some is due to the residents wandering, but mulyiple lockdowns in - there is little doubt staff must be considered as sources.

 

 

Similar with children and vaccinations:

The vax advisory group has said that looking at the case for children/vax in isolation (per child nothing else considered) they do not recommend vaccinations as their is a VERY small risk in giving the vaccinations.

No doodoo sherlock!!! .. actually Yep thats total doodoo sherlock - even considering every child in isolation - which they aren't.

Basic knowledge and a small amount of common sense tells you that is total bollocks as children are NOT isolated either from each other or their families, let alone that even the small risk of harm from infection is FAR higher than the risk from vaccination

 

So, considering just a few of the actual other critical considerations ..

* Very small risk from vaccination compared to the actual risk to even small numbers who get severe covid

* spread and mutation through schools

* spread and mutation outside school and back to families

* Spread and mutation through to other schools from siblings

* long covid

* Lost school time through infections

 

Seems to me any ONE of the above more than balances the VERY small risk to children from a vaccination, so what does that say about these 'advisors' Johnson chooses?

 

 

 

 

 

[brassnecked]

Keep an eye on ADE perhaps?

[tobyjugg2]

yes, trojans in trojans

.. and on the other side adjuvants which some vaccines are using, and more being experimented on

Edited September 4, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

I've just seen a suggestion/report that some member of the JVCI has apparently said that giving 12+ the vaccine will 'do more harm than good'

Now If he cant support that he should be dismissed immediately

ie He should be dismissed immediately

 

Last I saw, even with all the unknowns, vaccination was AT LEAST 4:1 or better for kids than not

re vaccine severe response vs covid sever response

aka 4 times more kids severely harmed minimum by covid than vaccines and that distinction growing quite quickly

- and that ignores long covid and all the other issues just concentrating on 'immediate harm.

 

[honeybee13]

I think they should be vaccinated too. Someone in the know on Twitter suggested that the vaccine committee quoted incorrect statistics with a lower case rate in the over 12s.