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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi

 

Thanks for all your warm wishes.

 

 

We are in court tomorrow at 11.30,am fingers crossed a duty solicitor will be present at that time.

 

We feel quite prepared,

thanks to CAG and once again we'll fight with all our might.

 

 

Myself or angel will let you know the outcome.

 

Goodnite and God Bless

 

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Hi Guys,

 

Just got back from court and unfortunately we werent victorious.

Their solicitor and the judge seemed to be on the same side hence he ruled in their favour.

Their solicitor used how many times we have been to court from inception for missed payment /arrears.

The judge did not discuss the charges/fees and the duty solicitor seemed to go with the flow.

 

 

We are now trying to get the money together to pay

but still unsure of what figure to go by

 

 

they stated £10k I think as partner went into see judge alone and on hearing the verdict didnt get duty solicitor to ask about the true arrears figure.

 

I am now planning on filing another defence for tomorrow - is this possible.

We are prepared to pay arrears - fees however the true figure.

 

Court closes at 4pm and need to file ASAP,

any help would be appreciated.

 

Kind regards

Survivor

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So what orders were made today ?

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Hiya ellen no worries

 

thanks for looking in survivor is on her way to my house will be here by 3pm

 

i am not too sure but from what has been told so far is that the judge didnt look at the charges and the claimants still didnt have an upto date True arrears figure only a figure with all the charges etc

 

also they claimed to have been in court before previous few times

 

the judge also didnt consider the fos and our claim as was still pending

thus here we are again

 

facing eviction on friday

 

hello Martin,,,thank you also for looking in,,,just see above until after 3pm cannot give more info im afraid

 

will stay here until she gets here cheers angel x

 

judge opposed the suspension of the eviction today

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Did you ask for leave to appeal?

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Survivor, I am so, so sorry to hear your bad news.

 

I regret I don't have the legal knowledge to offer any practial advice, but I just wanted to express my heartfelt sympathies.

 

Hope you manage to raise the funds or find some other way to stave this off.

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she has gone to court to do an emergency hearing,,,ellen

now

 

but what is a leave to appeal??

 

hiya underdog

 

thanks ,,,its not good but hey last grasp if we can at something they can pay what we believe is the true arrears tomorrow

 

need to shoot off now but thanks all , will update later with some more news

 

laters angel x

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You need to appeal the judge's order for possession - I believe this has to be done at a high court

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Hiya All,

 

I have filed defence again

- we have hearing in the morn at 9.45,

wasnt aware of leave of appeal so did form N244 again.

This suggesting we will pay arrears, however the true arrears-charges.

 

Hopefully we can get an accurate figure one and for all.

The judge probed about the figures but their solicitor stated he didnt have info - ONCE AGAIN.

 

Not sure if ive gone down the right route but hopefully we can look into right of appeal should they rule in favour of claimant again.

 

Absolutely shattered.

 

Any suggestions to take to court tomorrow would be appreciated

 

Thanking you all as always

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So sorry to hear the news.

And so annoyed that yet again the whole debacle regarding arrears charges is still muddying the waters so you still do not know what you actually owe in arrears.

 

 

I know they will still be added to your total debt

- but as Ellen has said they should be nothing to do with the court case.

 

AlthoughI understand that you were unable to keep to the arrangement the fact that the DWP had paid a lump sum should have actually reduced the arrears further as far as I can see.

 

It just seems so wrong.

 

Presumably if you are able to get the correct figure and able to pay the arrears the charges should stop.

 

I would hope that for once the court gets them to give you a break down of payments due versus payments made

- that is what they need to do

- it is not rocket science.

 

 

My lender does that as a matter of course on each statement.

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Thanks jansus,

 

I know its been a long hard battle to get the correct figures and quite frankly its in black and white on the statement ie arrears + Fees and arrears - fees. However they seem to go for the arrears + fees everytime.

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How on earth can a judge order possession when the claimant can't confirm the true arrears situation - it beggars belief:mad: They are frustrating your attempts to establish your true arrears which has a bearing on how you plan to reduce them.

 

Did the judge take no notice of the previous order?

 

Do you know if you are getting the same judge tomorrow?

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Hey Ell-enn,

 

Nice to hear from you. I know, I just dont get it either but it is what it is I guess. No, he didnt really go there, didnt take much notice of it at all.

 

I hope not - hopefully not as were in a different court, so fingers crossed.

When we did the statement and worked out the figures we actually owe £2289.14 instead of the £10,000 or whatever they claim. Oh the joys

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When you say you did the figures and worked out you owe £2289 - did you get that figure by deducting charges you had already paid ?

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No. Just went from the figures on the most recent statement -end September and:-

Arrears+Fees = £12,910.00

Areears-Fees = £6843.97

 

Amt recently paid = £3732,.36also Sept payment is being made on Mon 12th = £822.47.

£6843.97-£3732.26 = £3111.61

£3111.61-822.47 = £2289.14

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what exactly did you put in your statement for Q.10 in the N244

 

Did you enclose the statement showing the arrears and charges you have posted above and proof of the DWP lump sum payment?

 

Unless you can show you actually have the £822 in the bank tomorrow to make the Sept payment you cannot use that as it could be viewed that you are only saying that to escape the situation

(I know you're not, but you have to think like a judge!)

 

Sorry for all the questions etc... but I'm trying to find a way to help you tomorrow :)

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Thats ok Ell,

 

Yes,

I included the statement showing the arrears n charges as above,

did not include proof of DWP as their solicitor confirmed this in court,

however showed workings out include it.

 

I see what you mean regarding the 822,

DWP confirmed thats when payment would be made on info sheet,

if I paid tomorrow come monday we would be in credit by that amount.

 

included the Judgement order from May's hearing,

FOS info,

and offer to pay off arrears providing true figure can be given.

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Do you have a copy of what you wrote that you could post? (you can pm if you prefer).

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hiya ellen

 

got a call from survivor doing you a pm now cheers angel x

 

then you can chat directly with survivor as i have to go out for a bit will be back later and will then relog in

 

thanks for your huge help and others too angel x

 

Just sent,,,,,,,,

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Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

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hiya survivor

 

done as requested, off now catch up all laters angel x

 

good luck

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

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What date is your Oct payment due ? is that being paid directly by DWP?

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