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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. 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As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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Hi All,

just received my first letter from CWD regarding Dubai debt.

 

 

Can't afford to pay for now.

I don't have any assets, not even a car.

 

 

Been paying the card for 3 yrs but currently I have no money and can't pay.

It will just balloon from now on and will never be finished.

 

In the letter it states they can pursue:

i.) debt recovery proceedings to be issued in your local court or

ii.) pursue a petition for your sequestration.

 

Can you advise what I should do.

Any solicitors in the UK that are experienced in this?

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Hi All, just received my first letter from CWD regarding Dubai debt. Can't afford to pay for now. I don't have any assets, not even a car. Been paying the card for 3 yrs but currently I have no money and can't pay. It will just balloon from now on and will never be finished.

 

In the letter it states they can pursue: i.) debt recovery proceedings to be issued in your local court or ii.) pursue a petition for your sequestration.

 

Can you advise what I should do. Any solicitors in the UK that are experienced in this?

 

CWD have issued UK court proceeding for some UAE Banks, so it is possible. If you have no assets and little or no money to pay the UAE Bank, you might as well write to CWD advising them of your financial position and they will see that it is not worth pursuing you. Neither CWD or the UAE Bank are going to want to incur any court or other fees, which they would not get back.

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Hi uncle. Thanks for the response.

Where is your source regarding them being able to issue UK court proceedings?

 

I really don't have any assets and barely surviving every month, but will they believe me?

 

I can show them my monthly bank statement.

It is their first letter and I intend to respond to them.

 

I am guessing their next letter to me will be a SD?

By then I will probably get a solicitor (if I can afford it),

can you recommend any?

 

Thank you...

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Hi uncle. Thanks for the response. Where is your source regarding them being able to issue UK court proceedings? I really don't have any assets and barely surviving every month, but will they believe me? I can show them my monthly bank statement. It is their first letter and I intend to respond to them. I am guessing their next letter to me will be a SD? By then I will probably get a solicitor (if I can afford it), can you recommend any?

 

Thank you...

 

It has been reported here and elsewhere that CWD have obtained UK court judgements. The UAE Bank terms, generally seem to allow enforcement of the debt outside of UAE in any country that allows it. UK courts will deal with foreign debts, due to case precedent that was set in about 1971.

 

UAE Banks have also obtained UK Bankruptcies which is evidenced by cases showing in the London Gazette.

 

To make you Bankrupt would cost them i believe about £3k. The fees were recently changed for creditor applications. If you have no assets or money, i can't see them bothering.

 

Write to CWD explaining your position.

Ask them to obtain full statements of account and a copy of the account terms and conditions written in English.

 

Other people have searched for UK Solicitors that deal with UAE debts

and there are very few who seem to deal with foreign debts.

 

 

If you search there is one lady Solicitor in London that deals with UAE debts

and she only seems to negotiate a reduced settlement.

I don't think you need a Solicitors.

 

 

CWD generally seem to lose interest, once they know a debtor has no money or assets.

Even if you ended up with a UK court judgement

, you would ask to pay small affordable instalments.

We could do with some help from you.

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Thank you unclebulgaria. The debt is about GBP 2.5k. Maybe it has gone up slightly since the pound has plummeted against AED. Indeed I have had a look around and there seems to be no solicitors that know how to deal with this. So thanks again for your help.

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CWD are a bunch of fleecers

don't believe everything you read around the net

 

if they've bought the debt

then tough on them.

 

IMHO if you are going to write to anyone

then its the original creditor in UAE

 

there are lots of little holes appearing

 

read the comments in the this article from this 2014 thread

turns out they are simply a DCA

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?431524-any-new-updates-on-COYLEWHITEDEVINE-and-UAE-debt

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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CWD are a bunch of fleecers

don't believe everything you read around the net

 

if they've bought the debt

then tough on them.

 

IMHO if you are going to write to anyone

then its the original creditor in UAE

 

there are lots of little holes appearing

 

read the comments in the this article from this 2014 thread

turns out they are simply a DCA

 

 

Yes, the article is so biased towards the UAE, but the comments are spot on!

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So just an update. I wrote back to CWD over a month ago and requested for statements etc. and told them that I have no assets. Till now I haven't received anything.

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So just an update. I wrote back to CWD over a month ago and requested for statements etc. and told them that I have no assets. Till now I haven't received anything.

 

Think that is par for the course. They go back to the Dubai Bank asking for the info and to see whether they want to pursue if there are no assets. I think in other cases, it has been months before any reply is received.

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Think that is par for the course. They go back to the Dubai Bank asking for the info and to see whether they want to pursue if there are no assets. I think in other cases, it has been months before any reply is received.

 

Hi uncle. OK thanks for that. I will come back once I hear anything from them.

In terms of assets, how will they actually know that? By looking at the person's credit file?

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Hi uncle. OK thanks for that. I will come back once I hear anything from them.

In terms of assets, how will they actually know that? By looking at the person's credit file?

 

Credit file for mortgage being paid.

 

Land registry showing property in her name

We could do with some help from you.

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Just want to update everyone. After almost 1 yr I still haven't heard from CWD.

 

I think they realised it is not worth chasing me as they know they won't get anything from me.

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as is this way with all these debts

I just wish people would stop giving in and feeding them dog buscuits

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just want to update everyone. After almost 1 yr I still haven't heard from CWD.

 

I think they realised it is not worth chasing me as they know they won't get anything from me.

 

Just remember that if you ever fly long haul say to Australia or New Zealand don't go via an Islamic country. If you enter an Islamic country where the Dubai Bank may have registered interest in the debt on immigration lists, you might get detained until repayment is arranged. It is not worth the risk, if there are other travel options.

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Just remember that if you ever fly long haul say to Australia or New Zealand don't go via an Islamic country. If you enter an Islamic country where the Dubai Bank may have registered interest in the debt on immigration lists, you might get detained until repayment is arranged. It is not worth the risk, if there are other travel options.

 

Hi uncle. Thanks for the reminder again. We have travelled in europe and far east asia and there was no issue with immigration. A lot of people have been threatened with interpol but then again thats just scare tactics. We flew with cathay pacific so the route was over russia.

 

Thinking of flying with turkish airline next time. Do you think thats a wise idea?

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Hi uncle. Thanks for the reminder again. We have travelled in europe and far east asia and there was no issue with immigration. A lot of people have been threatened with interpol but then again thats just scare tactics. We flew with cathay pacific so the route was over russia.

 

Thinking of flying with turkish airline next time. Do you think thats a wise idea?

 

Don't know about going to Turkey, but no problem using the airline to go to a non islamic country.

 

The interpol notice issues seems to only relate to business type debts rather than consumer debts. But how many of the online stories have any truth to them, i am not convinced. They are not in mainstream media where the facts have been checked.

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from my extensive investigations over the last few weeks

it appears most of the so called 'apprehensions' at airports are made up stories

 

 

these appears only on forums run by people that fleece you out of money behind the scenes to write silly letters for you that you can do for free.

 

 

bit like the private parking ticket s.cammer sites

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Agree. This seems to be the case.

I think one advice site was set up originally for totally understandable reasons.

But if it then becomes a way of earning an income, there might be a temptation to believe in and publicise certain stories for which there seems to be little evidence. I might change my mind if a UK newspaper prints a story naming people detained at ports in Europe and the story is fully checked out.

 

I think there have been a few detentions at borders in the Middle East related to debts in Dubai, but i can't see why Interpol would allow UAE to start posting red notices regarding debts, so that people from Western countries get detained at European airports.

If it related to serious business fraud, i might understand it.

We could do with some help from you.

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