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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Hi - new to this so apologies if covering old ground.

 

I have received a PCN via ANPR for parking on the 13/10/15.

 

I received the PCN today, 2nd November, which is outwith the 14 days requirement I have read about.

 

PCN is dated 21/10 and the envelope is franked 22/10 and, again from what I've read tonight,

the law assumes it was delivered within a few days UNLESS I can prove otherwise.

 

 

There's no way it took 10 days to get here & I suspect they manipulate dates to appear they stay within the 14 days limit

& make you panic with only a few days to pay the lesser amount

 

Anyone any experience of this?

Was going to write to them but not sure I should acknowledge

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Could you tell us which part of the UK you're in please? Looking at your username, it could be Scotland and I believe the situation there is different. The guys will advise when they're able to get here. :)

 

My best, HB

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Hi HB

 

 

Scottish origins but I'm in Northampton and PCN is in Northampton.

 

 

Just to clarify - really wanted to know what constitutes proving it was received late as I'm sure many people say the same && they will dismiss out of hand. And whether I should acknowledge.

 

 

Thanks

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Hi - new to this so apologies if covering old ground.

 

 

I have received a PCN via ANPR for parking on the 13/10/15.

 

 

I received the PCN today, 2nd November, which is outwith the 14 days requirement I have read about.

 

 

PCN is dated 21/10 and the envelope is franked 22/10 and, again from what I've read tonight, the law assumes it was delivered within a few days UNLESS I can prove otherwise. There's no way it took 10 days to get here & I suspect they manipulate dates to appear they stay within the 14 days limit & make you panic with only a few days to pay the lesser amount

 

 

Anyone any experience of this? Was going to write to them but not sure I should acknowledge

 

An NTK being received late is only one of many reasons why it does not comply with schedule 4 of the POFA.

 

Post up a redacted copy please and we will show you more...

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If they have their own franking machine I wouldnt put it past them to do this as they are the most crooked parking company in the country. Not just my opinion either, even their entry details for the BPA membership is wrong as far as company details go. What car park was this as many they "manage" they dont actually have contracts for so that can be a reason it isnt PoFA compliant-failing to identify the creditor. Let us know what you have received by posting up a PDF or link to hosting site. Redact the personal details and invoice number.

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The car park is a place called the Doddridge Centre (doddridgecentre.org.uk). Check out the website & the huge parking warning on the front page - shows they must be having lots of bother. Its actually linked to the local council. Cant believe they use these people.

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well, the good news is that the signage isnt a contract so thwere is no breach of contract. The sign at the entrance just says no parking and private land. Nothing to say that it is managed by CEL, nothing of a contract being entered into if you park there etc. Whatever any other signs say they are not applicableas this sign is the one that is supposed to have the core terms of their offer.

CEL wont take you to court as they dont fancy being dragged off to the cells for contempt so they will rely on passing on your details to a DCA, who will send you some more begging letters. If you do feel you have to say something then tell them that there has been no breach of contract as one wasnt offered to consider. let them sweat the details otherwise you will be doing their work for them.

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Thanks. Just seen the google photo at the entrance so see what you mean. The absence of the full details overrides anything displayed beyond that is how I understand it?

 

 

I have someone looking at the dodgy posting/franking dates who should be able to tell me in a few days whether the info matches. I will let you know for interest sake & then I'll think about a reply to them. Certainly not paying up

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I was down near the car park in question last night. I had a feeling the signage on the google streetmap was an old one and sure enough, the signage has been updated.

 

 

presume that's not good for me?

 

 

I've always used that car park but clearly been put under 'new management'

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If you can post up the notice they sent you we can comment on whether it complies with the PoFA regarding its content. The reason I say this is because CEL has an interesting history that involves a lot of law breaking so it may be worthwhile responding with some of the relevant bits gleaned from their demand. They cant even tell the BPA who they are so they proably arent using the correct entity as the creditor.

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