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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. 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Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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Well, I knew it wouldn't last forever - the dreaded letter came this morning for an assessment on 17th August. Now, before I go any further I know already with mild anxiety and depression and a blood disorder as well as bad back occassionaly I have failed - I will get ZERO points so I am not that fussed by the actual appointment and result - if I know in advance the descriptors show ZERO I am not set up for a fall.

 

Now, I know I can claim travel expenses that is not a problem but I need to take a few things with me. I have various medical letters and reports which is fine, my medication is fine I can take all of that but re ID my passport is out of date and they say 3 forms of ID - would driving license, DWP letter and council letter be OK? I am failing so none of this really matters - not negativity just realism.

 

What happens after the assessment? I know I am failing so once DWP get the report and I back on JSA straight away? If so do I reclaim or just switched back? I am worried about loss of money in the interim. Also, My INGEUS sentence started Feb 2014 so even if thrown back on JSA will I be back there until Feb 2016 (if no job found) or do I do the whole 2 years again? I don't think I can handle 2 years again but 6 months of needed I can just about tolerate.

 

Also, re voluntary work - I still do 10 hours per week so presume I still can? Will I also need a new claimant commitment as a new JSA claimant or will it be a quick rapid reclaim?

 

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I did think about that but I am going on my own - my Father or Mother cannot go due to illness and they would also have to pay the train fare. It is not so bad knowing you have failed (zero) before you walk in so no pressure. Just want to get in and out

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As a follow up to this as a previous claimant of JSA but now in a UC area would I be shoved on to UC as I claim JSA and HB after my ESA claim has been stopped? I thought even if I am in a UC area as I previously claimed JSA and HB this would continue rather than under the format of UC.

 

 

Also, can anyone help re my question re INGEUS 'sentence'

 

 

I am hearing horror stories about UC so obviously worried. Also, once my ESA is stopped do I need to reclaim in full for my HB and JSA? If so I could be without money for ages. Should I also, once ESA is stopped contact the council to say while I am transferring I am on 'nil income'?

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Your two year sentence with Ingeus starts from the day you were first summons to their establishment. Any time spent in work, off benefits, or on assessment phase of ESA counts towards the 104 weeks. If I remember correctly, you were consigned to Ingeus in February 2014, so your release date will be Feb. 2016.

 

As for the council, I would recommend keeping them informed of any changes in writing as they happen. It might be of benefit to pop in to their offices and let them know that you will most likely be transferring to JSA or UC. But I'd wait until you have had the assessment before doing anything.

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Your two year sentence with Ingeus starts from the day you were first summons to their establishment. Any time spent in work, off benefits, or on assessment phase of ESA counts towards the 104 weeks. If I remember correctly, you were consigned to Ingeus in February 2014, so your release date will be Feb. 2016.

 

As for the council, I would recommend keeping them informed of any changes in writing as they happen. It might be of benefit to pop in to their offices and let them know that you will most likely be transferring to JSA or UC. But I'd wait until you have had the assessment before doing anything.

 

Thanks. I was unsure if I had to start at INGEUS again, that would have given me a breakdown. At least now, if things do not change, I only have a 6 month sentence rather than 24 months which I can just about handle at a push although it was them that sent me on to ESA in the first place so a vicious circle.

 

I obviously want to work but there simply isn't gainful employment in my field. Obviously I hope it does not happen but what if I was to get ill again via JSA/UC and the WP - I cannot go back to ESA? So, if I have a breakdown or major anxiety issues I cannot claim ESA and have to endure the WP and JCP?

 

Obviously once my assessment is done on August 17th and I have failed with ZERO I will inform the council and keep them up to speed.

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I actually email my council....quicker and cheaper than letters and proof of advising them of changes etc. plus I get an auto reply that its been recieved and they do answer fairly quickly.

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I emailed my council and have an automated response so that is good.

 

Another question - my current sick note takes me to mid October, if (sorry, WHEN) I am forced back to JSA/UC from ESA surely they cannot disregard my GP's advice/sick note period?

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Sadly I believe they can. Remember it's not about wether your ill or not, but wether in their eyes you're fit for some kind of work.

 

So you can be very ill (as many claimants have found out) and yet declared fit for work by the DWP.

 

It's an appalling system imo.

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Sadly I believe they can. Remember it's not about wether your ill or not, but wether in their eyes you're fit for some kind of work.

 

So you can be very ill (as many claimants have found out) and yet declared fit for work by the DWP.

 

It's an appalling system imo.

 

So, just to be clear, a GP who is medically and professionally trained to deal with sickness whether physical or mental signs someone off via his/her own professional opinion based on information and tests done on the patient but this counts for NOTHING? Seems fair enough. So when back on JSA and I am mentally incapable (as my note says Oct 2015) to look for work I should still be seeking work and attending workshops etc? Makes sense

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So, just to be clear, a GP who is medically and professionally trained to deal with sickness whether physical or mental signs someone off via his/her own professional opinion based on information and tests done on the patient but this counts for NOTHING?

 

Yep. Many people don't realise this until they enter the system and by then Its far too late.

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Yep. Many people don't realise this until they enter the system and by then Its far too late.

 

Makes a mockery of the whole system. Basically the patient as well as a medical professional has been undermined. A note that says you are NOT fit for work but then FORCED to look for work. How is that even legal? What happens if for example you are being treated for anxiety/depression etc - forced back on to JSA, crumble under pressure and have a breakdown. Your EXISTING note says you were UNFIT for work but you have been FORCED back as 'being fit'

 

Surely there are legal implications?

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What I think is a better idea is that the WCA is for SG eligibility only.

 

Then when someone claims for JSA if they are deemed not fit enough to work they get shoved onto WRAG by default, so basically everyone is caught in the net, so this would mean no WCA's for WRAG but consider new claimants on WRAG only get the same as JSA now it shouldn't be a massive deal.

 

My idea seems too much sense tho, so the DWP would never do it.

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Well tomorrow is the day. Got my letter, ID and meds ready to take and have to lay out £17 (borrowed off Father) for my train journey there.

 

Usually I am worried about these sort of things but you know what? Knowing it is a pointless exercise and you are getting ZERO makes it easier as there is no worry about failing/passing. To be honest, one look at me "yes, he can walk, speak, lift his arms, hold a conversation" and it is over anyway. Hope I am in and out in 5-10 minutes.

 

Not taking anyone with me, parents are at hospital themselves for something and to be honest no need for anyone to be there. Just sign the report and let me leave and chuck be back on JSA. Yes, nothingwrong with me, my doctor has signed me off for no reason at all but you override his decision.

 

How soon after this waste of time am I chucked back on to JSA? Immediate? Do Ire-apply for JSA or am I put back on it automatically? Who informs INGEUS (6 months left) that I am back with them so they can really 'help me' find work. Also, even though I will still lose can I appeal to delay going back to JSA/Ingeus? Is that my right?

 

Ironically I had an interview last week and waiting to hear next week (full time 32 hours a week)

 

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1. How soon DWP process the outcome of your WCA is tantamount to asking how long is a piece of string - keep chilling and the longer they take the better, probably.

2. If you're found fit for work, you will need to re-apply for JSA, they won't do it for you.

3. First step would be mandatory reconsideration, during which time you either claim JSA (though the conditions should be modified to take account of your health) or starve. There's no time limit and you may get a call from the decision maker to discuss your claim, though of course you're not obliged to speak to them.

4. If the decision is upheld, you can then appeal and go back on assessment rate ESA.

 

That said, they do sometimes get things right first time, so there's always hope. Make sure you know which descriptors you should score points for and make sure you get that into the assessment, even if it's when they ask if you have any questions! Good luck and keep with the attitude, don't let them grind you down. And good luck with the interview too.

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Well tomorrow is the day. [...] and have to lay out £17 (borrowed off Father) for my train journey there.

 

When you get there, make sure you get the travel expenses refunded before doing anything else.

 

Yes, you have the right to appeal any decision made as a result of the WCA, but I'm not sure how that affects the requirement to return to Ingeus. Would need to read the guidance notes to see what it says about claimants during the appeals phase. I suspect you would be transferred to JSA whilst an appeal is being considered and you would have to attend Ingeus as a result.

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When you get there, make sure you get the travel expenses refunded before doing anything else.

 

Yes, you have the right to appeal any decision made as a result of the WCA, but I'm not sure how that affects the requirement to return to Ingeus. Would need to read the guidance notes to see what it says about claimants during the appeals phase. I suspect you would be transferred to JSA whilst an appeal is being considered and you would have to attend Ingeus as a result.

 

Here's how I read things: after a failed WCA (and assuming intent to challenge the decision) then the claimant must request a Mandatory Reconsideration. While that's being processed, the claimant must claim JSA so I guess that means Ingeus attendance if required. Once the MR is completed (and the highly likely rejection notice received) then it's possible to make a Tribunal appeal. Once that's done, it's possible to claim ESA again, and return to the Assessment Phase. My understanding is that WP participation is not mandatory for those in the Assessment Phase.

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Well, that is that over with! Got in 30 minutes late and was in there for around an hour. We went through all of my hospital reports, conditions and medication and then went on to discuss how my anxiety and depression affects my every day life which I did re travelling, meeting people etc.

 

A few 'trick' questions were thrown in like "how did you get here" "did you walk from the station" "who does your shopping at home" "do you drive" all in reference to my back problem. she then made me try and lay on a bed and relax but I couldn't due to a pulling in my back.

 

She was pleasant enough but we both know the outcome based on answers I gave and her general responses to what I said. Put it this way, a man who lives near me had his assessment after me and we were chatting in the waiting area and he has two walking sticks, degenerative osteo (can't spell the rest!) can hardly ove his hands etc and he failed on 9 points before after his GP telling him he could not work but ATOS (now whatever it is called) telling him he was fit enough for work and must claim JSA.

 

It is not very PC I know but unless you have no arms or legs and are literally mentally unstable i.e bipolar you will not get past this assessment with the 15 points needed so I know I am back on JSA unless I get the job I was after which I am still waiting to hear from.

 

It ended with me being told I could wait UP TO 2 months for the report before anything happend and in the meantime keep my sick notes up to date. So, if I do not get this job JSA it is - will need to see what the process is once I get the report through but won't worry until then.

 

Left the office, grabbed a frappe and got the train home

 

The end!

 

P.S They done my travel expenses as I got there so were on the ball without me asking

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They done my travel expenses as I got there so were on the ball without me asking

 

At least that was one thing less to worry about. Fingers crossed that you get a reasonable score. Depending on what you score, should you have to go back to claiming JSA, you can use it to negotiate restrictions in your JSAg or Claimant Commitment.

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