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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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    • Gosh mate I've woke up this morning with half the worry I had last night when going to sleep!.  I can't believe how much this forum has helped me over the years and I don't  have the words to explain the gratitude I feel towards you guys -  Now that I've slept on it I feel ready to reject this company and my plan is to make them an offer to accept payments to date as full and final settlement - I will I think write them a letter once my review is completed or maybe just send it now whilst they are reviewing explaining my kids are unwell for which reason I'm struggling to survive and if I can politely request for them to accept payment to date as a full and final - I'll mention I don't have any cash or anyone to borrow from to offer a full or even part amount of the remaining balance of the iva and therfore am unable to make a offer of payment.   If they agree to at least even put my offer to the creditors then I feel it's better I hang in there and that way I won't have to deal with any possibilities of more defaults and ccjs    Right now the only adverse effects on my credit report are the iva that is now 3 years old and 2 Ccj one coming of this July and one thus October.    But I am worried new action will begin and new defaults and Ccj may start to appear because I've paying into an agreement im under the impression the 6 year rules starts again so yes I have lost of mixed feelings about this but I'm not going to lie you guys have put some life back into my breath this week as for the last 3 years I've felt caged like an animal and this morning I feel freer I can't explain how much but certainly my soul feel lighter today thanks to yin because I'm now viewing this review totally different to I do yesterday thanks to you guys 
    • Court name UNKNOWN Case number ********** Amount N/A Confirmed by Insolvency Service Date issued May 2021 Type Voluntary Arrangement Notes If you have questions about voluntary arrangements you should speak to the Insolvency Service.     I started this in 2021. So it's been about 3 years I've been paying. 
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I understand that's why I'm here, but I always think of the worst case as that way things can only get better I mean if it says I need to go to court, how long does it take?, what if I am on honeymoon and miss it!

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You are welcome, just to remind you of this as well, if I mean if the LA do want to take this to Court you MUST seek legal advice IMMEDIATELY the moment you know.

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If you have a Court date you MUST NOT fail to attend without good cause or notice to the Court, this regardless if you are on honeymoon, you are obliged to attend, failure to do so could see a bench warrant issued for your arrest for non attendance.

 

 

Again this is advice a Solicitor would tell you this anyway.

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If you are away when it arrives then that is different, you will have ticket receipts and things to prove you were out of the country.

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I am known on the forums for being brutal and honest with my replies and sometimes, I upset the poster of the thread, it depends if you want the brutal truth or just a fancy acceptable answer it would help if you could answer that..

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Yes it is, there is no point in conjecture at this time, putting all this worry on yourself will do you no favours will it? NO!! So take a deep breath and walk away from this for a day or two, just so you can relax a little.

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I am known on the forums for being brutal and honest with my replies and sometimes, I upset the poster of the thread, it depends if you want the brutal truth or just a fancy acceptable answer it would help if you could answer that..

 

 

Just to add my two pennies worth dare I say it would help matters a tad If you didn't keep posting parts of your comments in bold/upper case, which comes across (to me at least) as shouting and so a wee bit aggressive sometimes. Just taking it a little gentler would help things.

 

People want sensible advise, and not being scared to death at this early stage imo.

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most people who commit benefit fraud do not go to prison, as this is normally reserved for the most serious cases

 

there are a number of things that could happen

  1. the council may simply ask you to repay the overpayment
  2. the council may apply an official caution - they can only do this if you admit the offence
  3. the council may apply a penalty - you do not have to plead guilty to accept a penalty - this is similar to an additional fine that you have to pay back as well as the overpayment
  4. the council may decide to prosecute - this means they take you to court - there are a wide range of possible sentences that you could receive - the vast majority do not involve prison

 

the best advice that can be offered is to seek professional legal advice from a soliciitor who specialises in social security - nobody here can advise you about how long this matter could take to deal with as it will depend upon complexity of case, caseload at your local Council, caseload at your local courts

 

at this moment in time you need to try not to get yourself upset - i would advise not reading about other cases and their outcomes as each case is individual, you just run the risk of upsetting and worrying yourself

 

we all make mistakes in life - a good thing is that it is better that you came clean now, rather than in another 4 or 5 years, when the amount you owe might have doubled

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Just to add my two pennies worth dare I say it would help matters a tad If you didn't keep posting parts of your comments in bold/upper case, which comes across (to me at least) as shouting and so a wee bit aggressive sometimes. Just taking it a little gentler would help things.

 

People want sensible advise, and not being scared to death at this early stage imo.

 

 

Not shouting in the least. It is making the point that posters time and again forget that they don't always see what is clearly being said, it is used to draw attention to a point of fact or to show clearly what is being said.

 

 

Often repeating over several posts and still not being understood. But when in bold your eyes are drawn to these "words" and then it is understood. These are keywords for the poster, it is used often in many documents for this reason. Also it allows them to see the "word" clearer. Also CAG has key words that automatically link to the library or other things like quotes, so it is not necessarily me but the system as in the post above if you hover over it or click it you will see its actually a link with further information relevant to that word. Just pointing out the obvious if you hadn't noticed by the way?

 

 

I have all the time in the world so to speak for posters on any forum. But sometimes as stated it takes a bit more for the point to be taken. BTW no offence taken.

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If the complaint is that Mikeymack is bolding the word "overpayment", that's not something he has any control over. The forum software automatically makes that word into a link and bolds it by default - there's nothing an individual poster can do to prevent it. The same is true of a number of other words, such as "contribution".

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most people who commit benefit fraud do not go to prison, as this is normally reserved for the most serious cases

 

there are a number of things that could happen

  1. the council may simply ask you to repay the overpayment
  2. the council may apply an official caution - they can only do this if you admit the offence
  3. the council may apply a penalty - you do not have to plead guilty to accept a penalty - this is similar to an additional fine that you have to pay back as well as the overpayment
  4. the council may decide to prosecute - this means they take you to court - there are a wide range of possible sentences that you could receive - the vast majority do not involve prison

 

the best advice that can be offered is to seek professional legal advice from a soliciitor who specialises in social security - nobody here can advise you about how long this matter could take to deal with as it will depend upon complexity of case, caseload at your local Council, caseload at your local courts

 

at this moment in time you need to try not to get yourself upset - i would advise not reading about other cases and their outcomes as each case is individual, you just run the risk of upsetting and worrying yourself

 

we all make mistakes in life - a good thing is that it is better that you came clean now, rather than in another 4 or 5 years, when the amount you owe might have doubled

 

Wish i read this last night i may have slept a bit will let you all know the outcome as may help someone else in a similar situation

thanks you all really has helped not feel so alone and believe me i will be double cheaking everything in future

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If the complaint is that Mikeymack is bolding the word "overpayment", that's not something he has any control over. The forum software automatically makes that word into a link and bolds it by default - there's nothing an individual poster can do to prevent it. The same is true of a number of other words, such as "contribution".

 

 

No It's not that. I suggest you go back and read his previous posts to see what I mean.

 

*eta* I think he's adjusted that now.

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No It's not that. I suggest you go back and read his previous posts to see what I mean.

 

*eta* I think he's adjusted that now.

 

Hi Sadone

 

I understand what you mean from looking back at posts 9, 15, 27 & 29, I think mikeymack was just trying to place emphasis on some words as most people do when talking to people face to face, but can be lost in online or written communications.

 

Different people use different methods to place emphasis.

 

It is normal convention online that the use of capitals indicates shouting and I generally perceive use of uppercase as shouting/aggressive, so I fully understand where you are coming from, but I honestly do not think that was mikeymack's intention.

 

Personally, I find underlining or use of bold to be less aggressive than uppercase.

 

But I think it is important that we try to keep the thread on track.

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Wish i read this last night i may have slept a bit will let you all know the outcome as may help someone else in a similar situation

thanks you all really has helped not feel so alone and believe me i will be double cheaking everything in future

 

I know it is difficult playing the waiting game, but you need to just do your best to allow life to go on, and focus on the things you need to.

 

There is no point in worrying about what has happened, as that will not change what has already happened

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im trying to start a new post but cant work out how what im asking is im still awaiting a response from this benefit fraud investigation, i was told if i get a date and its on my wedding day /honeymoon i have to cancell the day/honeymoon

would wedding insurance cover something like that as allt he sites i have asked are very vague with no straight answers :( :(

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Hello there. If you're writing about the same problem, it's better not to start a new thread and to keep the information together for the people advising you.

 

For info though, if you scroll up to the top of this page, just above the name of the forum on the left, there is a blue box that says + Post New Thread in white.

 

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