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Hi Guys,

Was contacted by erudio last year about the change of ownership.

i didnt want to sign the deferment letter.

Came on here read up and decided to request my CCA for the loans back in October.

No response only threatening letters. i sent a second response and no reply.

They eventually wrote to me in december saying they will look into my request.

I heard nothing until today - they have actually sent me a copy of all my CCA's, signed.

Wondering what are my options here? They did not comply to the 14 days from my request.

The date of the loans are 97, 98, 99 and 2000

HOWEVER - of all the CCA's, there is a few things:

- only 1999 and 2000 are signed the others are blank

- 1998 only has the DD section ignored

- only 1999 is signed by an official from student loans

They are photo copies though. but the others do look completely blank

Thanking you in advance

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scan then up please

 

so when did you last defer to SLC before the sale?

 

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Ok il scan up shortly - what do you need to see on them and what shall/can i cover up?

 

I last deferred the last year before sale, so i have pretty much deferred most years. As soon as it switched hands to Erudio i haven't signed a thing.

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Ok il scan up shortly - what do you need to see on them and what shall/can i cover up?

 

I last deferred the last year before sale, so i have pretty much deferred most years. As soon as it switched hands to Erudio i haven't signed a thing.

 

 

why cant you simply use a copy of the old SLC DAF and send that in

if your situation has not changed

 

 

stuff rodeo

 

 

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just send that to rodeo

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Dx you really do deserve a medal! I propose we all nominate you for an MBE or sommet similar. :)

 

Pattern, your CCA sounds dodgy as heck. As is always the advice 'Question everything', & just because they tell you that they have responded to your CCA, they normally havn't. So! Check and double check everything they send you. :)

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Hi Guys, re-bumping this rather than starting a new one.

i refused to sign erudio's dodgy upgraded deferment form.

Eventually they sent by debt over to Capquest.

 

Firstly i sent them a template on here 'i dont acknowledge' CCA Request, nothing yet more letters,

i recently sent them a 'prove it' style - they have not responded

 

Shall i send a letter again?

I did request a CCA from Erudio and they sent me pieces of this as mentioned above

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you should never ever kick pram wheels if the DCA is not kicking yours.

 

you should have learned that years ago!!

 

never ever blindly send any pointless letter tennis on any debt with asking here FIRST..

 

bad move!

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I remember DX and i remember your priceless help (thank you again!)

 

Ill follow previous advice..

... Reason i started these new thread is i really dont want to have to go to court again and set aside another Statutory demand

 

:( plus its messing up my credit file

, i cant get any finance or even start to for another 4 years. However i see your point and thanks for the reminder

 

I spoke to credit reference agencies and they said i can dispute the marks on my credit score

- you suggest to try this?

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so why did you not send that deferment form then as advised 2 yrs ago?

 

 

dx

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Because the one at the time requested i sign a new form.

 

i read up countless people having the same issue and were advised send your own deferment letter under the same terms as previous not erudio ones

 

. I did, and i got the same reply... i need to sign their one

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not according to the FOS

 

they have already told Erudio that they must accept the old form with old requirements and cant dictate that their form MUST be used.

 

your issue is now that you sent that [you didn't tell us that till now]

and erudio have since defaulted your credit file and are claiming you are in arrears?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you write to erudio and complain [refer to the case listed on this thread at the end]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?447223-Erudio-and-final-FOS-decision

 

demand they REMOVE the whole account from your credit file

and accept the completed SLC old deferment form

[you need to do a new one too? for this year?]

 

else you'll be complaining to the FOS

and seeking financial compensation for the distress caused to you and the financial cripplement their faulty default has caused

 

give them 14 days

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for that..

. just read the whole 6 pages, and have the deferment form.

Yep ill have to do another for this year too i guess, so send them that with the letter i presume.

 

Reading that thread... you state to sign and alter slightly, they didnt sign, so do i or dont i sign?

 

And i draft a cover letter along with the SLC DAF to Erudio explaining :

 

"I have been contact by capquest informing me i have a debt in arrears and defaulted for my student loan.

 

i have sent you the SLC DAF previously which is acceptable by FOS,

i have attached this years DAF also.

 

i request you accept my DAF demand you REMOVE the whole account from my credit file.

Otherwise i shall complain to the FOS. I expect to hear from you in 14 days"

 

something like that?

 

Anything else?

 

I can see that person in that post actually never heard back nor got a response, and instead like me their debt was sent to capquest and in the same position. I am just following protocol here then i presume to protect myself in the event it goes to court?

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please don't beg them or request this or that - demand

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well you're not disputing the agreements are you?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Still not sure about signing this one but i guess i must. Just worried if capquest get hold of it they pay copy/paste. But hey if i must i must sign

 

Will be sending today, i kept it very blunt and demanded as you say - thanks again

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you are not disputing agreements exist...:frusty::frusty:

 

so what good would it do them to copy your sig anywhere....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hey guys, thought i would update you -

 

received a balance statement from erudio following my dispute letter and sending my deferment for again (Thanks DX100UK),

 

they have been removed from my credit file.

 

This letter was dated 4th sept.

 

All looks like its ok?

 

Maybe not.... i received no acknowledgement of my letter,

AND also received this:

 

Around the same period (i didnt open my post) i received a letter dated 29th AUG stating the following:

 

Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding your studenrt loan.

We have now investigated your complaint raised on decemeber 2015 and unfortunately we have not recieved correspondence from the FSO.

We would ask that you send us a copy of the outcome, to be able to investigate further.

Capquest will place a 30 day hold on your account ......

Any advice on the next steps?

 

Shall i send my deferment letter recorded again?

 

Doesn't seem they have acknowledged and/or are mocking it

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We have now investigated your complaint raised on decemeber 2015 and unfortunately we have not recieved correspondence from the FSO.

 

 

whats this bit about?

did you complain to the FOS then?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thats what im puzzled about.

 

No i didn't, i requested a cca using the template link on here when they said they wouldn't accept my original deferrment,

 

i then sent a no cca response letter again states nothing about FOS.

 

Nowhere in my letters did it state this at all?

 

These letters were sent to then in 2014 not 2015.

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