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    • Thank-you dx, What you have written is certainly helpful to my understanding. The only thing I would say, what I found to be most worrying and led me to start this discussion is, I believe the judge did not merely admonish the defendant in the case in question, but used that point to dismiss the case in the claimants favour. To me, and I don't have your experience or knowledge, that is somewhat troubling. Again, the caveat being that we don't know exactly what went on but I think we can infer the reason for the judgement. Thank-you for your feedback. EDIT: I guess that the case I refer to is only one case and it may never happen again and the strategy not to appeal is still the best strategy even in this event, but I really did find the outcome of that case, not only extremely annoying but also worrying. Let's hope other judges are not quite so narrow minded and don't get fixated on one particular issue as FTMDave alluded to.
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    • the claimant in their WS can refer to whatever previous CC judgements they like, as we do in our WS's, but CC judgements do not set a legal precedence. however, they do often refer to judgements like Bevis, those cases do created a precedence as they were court of appeal rulings. as for if the defendant, prior to the raising of a claim, dobbed themselves in as the driver in writing during any appeal to the PPC, i don't think we've seen one case whereby the claimant referred to such in their WS.. ?? but they certainly typically include said appeal letters in their exhibits. i certainly dont think it's a good idea to 'remind' them of such at the defence stage, even if the defendant did admit such in a written appeal. i would further go as far to say, that could be even more damaging to the whole case than a judge admonishing a defendant for not appealing to the PPC in the 1st place. it sort of blows the defendant out the water before the judge reads anything else. dx  
    • Hi LFI, Your knowledge in this area is greater than I could possibly hope to have and as such I appreciate your feedback. I'm not sure that I agree the reason why a barrister would say that, only to get new customers, I'm sure he must have had professional experience in this area that qualifies him to make that point. 🙂 In your point 1 you mention: 1] there is a real danger that some part of the appeal will point out that the person appealing [the keeper ] is also the driver. I understand the point you are making but I was referring to when the keeper is also the driver and admits it later and only in this circumstance, but I understand what you are saying. I take on board the issues you raise in point 2. Is it possible that a PPC (claimant) could refer back to the case above as proof that the motorist should have appealed, like they refer back to other cases? Thanks once again for the feedback.
    • Well barristers would say that in the hope that motorists would go to them for advice -obviously paid advice.  The problem with appealing is at least twofold. 1] there is a real danger that some part of the appeal will point out that the person appealing [the keeper ] is also the driver.  And in a lot of cases the last thing the keeper wants when they are also the driver is that the parking company knows that. It makes it so much easier for them as the majority  of Judges do not accept that the keeper and the driver are the same person for obvious reasons. Often they are not the same person especially when it is a family car where the husband, wife and children are all insured to drive the same car. On top of that  just about every person who has a valid insurance policy is able to drive another person's vehicle. So there are many possibilities and it should be up to the parking company to prove it to some extent.  Most parking company's do not accept appeals under virtually any circumstances. But insist that you carry on and appeal to their so called impartial jury who are often anything but impartial. By turning down that second appeal, many motorists pay up because they don't know enough about PoFA to argue with those decisions which brings us to the second problem. 2] the major parking companies are mostly unscrupulous, lying cheating scrotes. So when you appeal and your reasons look as if they would have merit in Court, they then go about  concocting a Witness Statement to debunk that challenge. We feel that by leaving what we think are the strongest arguments to our Member's Witness Statements, it leaves insufficient time to be thwarted with their lies etc. And when the motorists defence is good enough to win, it should win regardless of when it is first produced.   
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Hi. I've just gone from DLA to the new PIP & have lost £150.00 per month it seems.

 

Just got the pip 'final' deciders today.

 

Currently (till start of feb) on middle rate carers & lower rate disability I am/was getting about £369.00 per month.

 

Now in the Pip letter they tell me I don't get the 'daily living component' as I only had 6 points (min 8 required).

 

They are saying I will receive £56.75 per week for the 'enhanced mobility' component.

So under the new PIP i'll receive £225.00 per month instead of £369.00?

 

My question is this:-

Will I receive a separate letter about the carers allowance?

If I don't have a carer, will that money go to me like it did with the DLA's?

 

I am very worried at the moment as I seem to be losing out on what amounts to almost £40 per week from this new pip benefit compared to the DLA, and this while I am actually worse off medically than i was when i made my original claim!

 

I am an MS patient, I cannot walk far without assistance & I use a wheelchair if someone takes me out for the day (family usually).

There have been mental health issues (I rarely go out at all) though seems pointless mentioning those because it seems in no part does my pip claim reflect to any of my mental health problems only in the mobility side.

 

If this is all I am to receive now can anybody tell me the steps to appealing or post a link to same. Any help with this appreciated as at the moment I just feel like i've been robbed.

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dla (care component) is replaced by pip (daily living element) - if you have scored 6 points - you do not get help with care/living costs

if you disagree with decision - first stage is to request a mandatory reconsideration through the DWP

 

dla (mobility component) is replaced by pip (mobility element) - you will continue to receive this, though at higher level than previously

 

carers allowance is a separate benefit paid to the carer not the disabled person

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I see. So it is as bad as i thought then.

 

So being just two points off the minimum 8 for the daily living element I have lost all that money. I will indeed appeal.

 

Thanks id6052 for clarifying that, even though it is not what I wanted to hear, it is always best to know where one stands so cheers for that.

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carers allowance is paid to the carer of a person on middle or higher rate of DLA(care) or the daily living component of PIP

 

i think that when OP refers to carers allowance, he meant DLA(care)

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carers allowance is paid to the carer of a person on middle or higher rate of DLA(care) or the daily living component of PIP

 

i think that when OP refers to carers allowance, he meant DLA(care)

 

Yes, it was the care component of dla i was referring too.

 

 

The lady who did the 'one to one' interview admitted at the time that she was in a hurry & this was in the presence of my mother who was there as support so i shouldn't think the appeal will be a problem being as she literally 'rushed me' through the process.

 

Thanks for the information anyways guys, I was not sure how to appeal since they had changed the system over so cheers again for that. Will request a mandatory recon first thing monday.

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My question

"Isn't carer's allowance directly related to having the care component of pip or dla?"

 

was based on this statement the OP made

 

Will I receive a separate letter about the carers allowance?

If I don't have a carer, will that money go to me like it did with the DLA's?"

 

And this is what got me confused. I read it as he had a carer and that carer was getting Carer's Allowance

and that if he did not have a carer then the Carer's Allowance would be paid to him.

 

So based on the answer I received from my initial post just to clarify

If you do not receive either Mid/high rate DLA(care) or Any level of PIP(care) the you cannot get Carer's Allowance

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That's correct. To have a carer the claimant must receive one of the below benefits.

 

Personal Independence Payment (PIP) daily living component

Disability Living Allowance (DLA) - the middle or highest care rate

Attendance Allowance

Constant Attendance Allowance at or above the normal maximum rate with an Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit, or basic (full day) rate with a War Disablement Pension

Armed Forces Independence Payment (AFIP)

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Yes, i didn't mean to confuse you, it was the 'middle rate care' that i was receiving through DLA which is now the 'daily living element' viz PIP.

 

SO viz a viz, that is where the missing chunk of money has gone. They have deemed it that I can care for myself (which isn't always the case though I try very hard, MS can be very random as far as symptoms are concerned). I suppose by appealing I just prove them right, irony irony o.O

 

Perhaps if I don't appeal they will see that I cannot manage my affairs & will go ahead & pay me the missing part! Not fancying the odds to much mind.

 

The really funny thing about all this is I had pointed out to the lady who did the 'one to one' that in a worst case 'MS' scenario, I had one time stepped into the kitchen & for a few moments didn't have a clue where I had come from! Oh yes, perhaps they'll let me drive a car now too!

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Have you looked at the descriptors and seen where you score points? You only need the help 50% of the time, the help has to be reasonable, (ie, you don't have to be receiving the help or want it - it just has to be reasonable for you to be needing it) you have to be able to repeat the task safely, realiably and in a timely manner.

 

A lot of the criteria for PIP is different to DLA.

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I would definatly look to get help and to appeal.

 

http://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/ is a useful site

there is also a book avalable from there that has all discriptors and law surrounding them.

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I am just about to phone the number they gave me to ask for the mandatory reconsideration notice.

 

I've kept all the info I need, including about the SSC1 form which I might need later.

 

I really appreciate all the help & info CAG provides via you guys, so again, very much thank you to you all for your help.

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