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    • Few tweaks as the run order was completely messed up and the main point of your defence (reconstituted agreement) pushed to the bottom of the statement.   I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. 1.The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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    • Gosh mate I've woke up this morning with half the worry I had last night when going to sleep!.  I can't believe how much this forum has helped me over the years and I don't  have the words to explain the gratitude I feel towards you guys -  Now that I've slept on it I feel ready to reject this company and my plan is to make them an offer to accept payments to date as full and final settlement - I will I think write them a letter once my review is completed or maybe just send it now whilst they are reviewing explaining my kids are unwell for which reason I'm struggling to survive and if I can politely request for them to accept payment to date as a full and final - I'll mention I don't have any cash or anyone to borrow from to offer a full or even part amount of the remaining balance of the iva and therfore am unable to make a offer of payment.   If they agree to at least even put my offer to the creditors then I feel it's better I hang in there and that way I won't have to deal with any possibilities of more defaults and ccjs    Right now the only adverse effects on my credit report are the iva that is now 3 years old and 2 Ccj one coming of this July and one thus October.    But I am worried new action will begin and new defaults and Ccj may start to appear because I've paying into an agreement im under the impression the 6 year rules starts again so yes I have lost of mixed feelings about this but I'm not going to lie you guys have put some life back into my breath this week as for the last 3 years I've felt caged like an animal and this morning I feel freer I can't explain how much but certainly my soul feel lighter today thanks to yin because I'm now viewing this review totally different to I do yesterday thanks to you guys 
    • Court name UNKNOWN Case number ********** Amount N/A Confirmed by Insolvency Service Date issued May 2021 Type Voluntary Arrangement Notes If you have questions about voluntary arrangements you should speak to the Insolvency Service.     I started this in 2021. So it's been about 3 years I've been paying. 
    • Thanks @lookinforinfo@Nicky Boyi sent across the agreement earlier in this thread. No mention of financial reward to the MA. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done on the sly. As I said earlier, the owner of OPS is a convicted criminal, with a very shady reputation around these parts.
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After obtaining probate to deal with my late mother’s estate

 

 

I was contacted by the DWP in one of their standard fishing exercises re: benefit overpayments.

 

 

This initial letter included the line “We will let you know whether or not we need to make further enquiries within 20 working days”.

If only.

 

Despite returning the form the next day I was chased for a response a month later.

2 days after that they confirmed receipt of my original response!

 

 

Based on this my expectations of response time from DWP are poor.

That was 2 months ago and I have heard nothing further.

 

 

I have no desire to wake these sleeping dogs but as executor I would like to finalise and distribute the estate

and would like to know if there is any legal limit to how long I can be forced to wait.

 

I know that a Trustee Act notice in the London Gazette provides a time limit for creditors to come forward

but in this case a letter notifying a potential debt has already been received prior to publication of a Notice.

 

 

If this case got lost in the cracks would I be expected to hold the funds permanently in limbo awaiting a response or is there a limit?

 

 

I haven’t been able to Google an answer so I thought I’d ask the experts!

 

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Welcome to the site despite the difficult circumstances that brings you to it and sincere condolences on your late sad loss.

An acquaintance of mine recently had a similar predicament while acting as executor for one of his relatives.

He said that he had legal advice to the effect that it was for him as executor to settle all debts accruing to the estate of the deceased before the remainder could be disbursed.

This involved him in taking steps to speed up any requests for settlement by creditors.

No mention was made of a time limit but had he not taken steps to speed things up it would surely have taken longer, which could have resulted in other complications and possible expense.

Perhaps you could inform DWP that they will be held liable for any expenses accruing as a result of their delay.

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May I ask how long ago the overpayment occurred, how much it is & the reason for it?

 

I have no idea what benefits my mother may have received or how much,

 

 

my guess about "when" is that it would be between June 2009 and August 2013,

the latter being the time of her death and

the former a time when I know her savings had been small.

 

 

During that period I believe she spent very little of the benefits she received

so her “savings” would have grown but without amounts & dates from bank statements

I’ve no idea when she would have ceased qualifying for some of those benefits

& what the extent of any overpayments might be.

 

 

I don’t want to fork out an arm & a leg for 4 years’ worth of statements until I know how far back the DWP thinks the overpayments go.

 

I’d like to bring my duties as executor to a close and the usual Notice in the Gazette won’t achieve that

because I’ve already been advised of the DWP’s “potential claim”.

 

 

I'm hoping there's a legal time limit to how long they can expect everything to remain frozen awaiting their decision.

 

 

(Or, failing that, the matter slips through the cracks for six years so it becomes unenforceable.

Only joking on that one

- I know it doesn't apply to debts to the Crown.

Unless this would just be considered a debt to a local authority, in which case I'm not joking.)

 

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[...] between June 2009 and August 2013, [...] I don’t want to fork out an arm & a leg for 4 years’ worth of statements

 

Tip: Send a SAR to the bank concerned enclosing the usual £10 fee they normally charge - As the executor of the estate, I believe they are obliged to respond to the request even although the account(s) is not in your name.

 

Having said that, it would be worth contacting the Bereavement Centre of the bank concerned and asking for their assistance in providing copies of the statements - Came across a post on another site where (it is claimed that) Barclays BC provided all the information free of charge.

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yes sar to the bank concerned

 

 

as an exec you are legally entitled to do so

 

 

wont hurt either as likewise

you are entitled to reclaim any PPI too etc etc

 

 

and not only on the accounts with that group.

 

 

when my mum died I got over £7k out of barclaycard

 

 

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If she was claiming pension credit they will take a very long time indeed.

Have they indicated that there is a definite overpayment?

 

.“...may have been paid too much income related benefit” was their phrase. Care to put a figure on “very long time” and any clue if there’s a limit to how long they’re allowed to take?

It was interesting to note from today’s news that the various celebrities whose tax avoidance methods HMRC took a dim view of will not be subject to penalties because investigations took too long. It would be nice if there were a simple table showing the time limits applicable to different kinds of investigation to save questions similar to mine (but, as far as I could find, not the same) popping up repeatedly.

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pension credit decisions can take months. It may be that your Mother was in an assessed income period & that there isn't an overpayment.

 

Write to them setting out what you have said above. Give them 28 days to respond then if they don't, involve your MP.

Please do not ask me for advice via PM as I will not reply.

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