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Hi, I'm hoping someone can offer any advice or point me to an organization that can help.

 

The story is as follows, rightly or wrongly.

 

I sent BG a letter stating they have 28 days to object or I would commence with having my own meter installed into the property under Schedule 7 Electricity Act 1989.

 

They failed to object so I commenced, Had the meter installed August this year.

 

I provided meter serial numbers, start readings etc etc to BG.

 

Then a chap requested to inspect the meters at 9pm Monday night (10/11/14) which I let him do, he said it was unsafe and then had an engineer come and remove the meter, he said he wouldn't be putting in their meter or a pay as you go meter.

 

I called BG the next morning and they are refusing to install a payg meter untill we pay £1,400.26p.

 

They said it is a second offence, Wrongly I know I did do something before.

 

 

I have scraped together £800. But they wont budge...

 

I understand if people call me a thief, fine, fair does.... I did this with the full reading of the Electricity Act 1989 which states at schedule 7 that I could have my own meters installed.

 

Did I interpreted that act incorrectly?

 

Are there any charities that can help liaise with BG?

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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/schedule/7

 

Out of interest, why did you decide to have your own meter installed - was there not one already supplied by British Gas ?

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Who installed the meter you provided?

 

Also, did you read through all of the ammendments that have been made to schedule 7 of the Electricity Act 1989? There is a red warning at the top stating:

 

"There are outstanding changes not yet made by the legislation.gov.uk editorial team to Electricity Act 1989."

 

Underneath is a link to a list of all the outstanding changes.

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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/schedule/7

 

Out of interest, why did you decide to have your own meter installed - was there not one already supplied by British Gas ?

 

 

Simply because I didn't trust the accuracy of their meter, I think it took too much for standing charge type things, also I don't like the sound of Smart Meters....

 

There was originally a payg meter installed. But it seemed we were spending more than we would have if we would have had a contract meter installed.

 

I am and was intending to pay for electricity used, my intention was not to install the meter then refuse entry to readers or anything and hide away.

 

I let the Guy in to inspect it, because BG didn't install it they said nit may be unsafe and this was the reason for removing it.

 

They then said we owe £1000+, made up of over 2000kwh estimated, and charges of nearly £450.00 + vat for the call out and removal of meter.

 

If I had the £1000+ I would pay it, but I am scared they will take the money and then say we are not fitting a payg meter....

today will be our fourth day with no electricity, 3 kids, a partner who is classed as vulnerable with her medical problems...

 

 

Thanks in advance to everyone who replies.

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I'm not pointing fingers, but the only people that can usually install an electricity meter is either a registered energy supplier or your local distributor (e.g. Northern Powergrid, UK Power Networks). Any old electrician is not qualified nor authorised to install this equipment as, amongst other things, they can be potentially working on a live mains voltage at very high amperage (100A or more, depending on the situation with the cutout fuse).

 

You need specialist gear to do it safely. In the event of an accident, then at best the installer gets electrocuted - at worst it burns the house down with a bunch of people in it (and potentially adjoining houses down too).

 

Whilst it is true you can have your own meter installed, it needs to be an approved meter, the supplier needs to have consented to the install (they usually can't refuse this without good reason) and it needs to be installed by the right people.

 

Not to scare you, but be aware there are a bunch of laws that have been broken here! The estimated charges for your energy usage are maybe a seperate issue, but if it were me I'd be feeling very lucky that I wasn't being prosecuted for potential energy theft.

 

What are they basing their estimations on, have they explained it?

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Hi, I'm hoping someone can offer any advice or point me to an organization that can help.

 

The story is as follows, rightly or wrongly.

 

I sent BG a letter stating they have 28 days to object or I would commence with having my own meter installed into the property under Schedule 7 Electricity Act 1989.

 

They failed to object so I commenced, Had the meter installed August this year.

 

I provided meter serial numbers, start readings etc etc to BG.

 

Then a chap requested to inspect the meters at 9pm Monday night (10/11/14) which I let him do, he said it was unsafe and then had an engineer come and remove the meter, he said he wouldn't be putting in their meter or a pay as you go meter.

 

I called BG the next morning and they are refusing to install a payg meter untill we pay £1,400.26p.

 

They said it is a second offence, Wrongly I know I did do something before.

 

 

I have scraped together £800. But they wont budge...

 

I understand if people call me a thief, fine, fair does.... I did this with the full reading of the Electricity Act 1989 which states at schedule 7 that I could have my own meters installed.

 

Did I interpreted that act incorrectly?

 

Are there any charities that can help liaise with BG?

 

 

 

Who actually installed the meter you provided, before BG deemed it unsafe?

 

An electrician friend

 

I'm amazed BG didn't turn up with the police !

 

Section 13 Theft Act 1968

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/13

 

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/abstracting_electricity/

Please use the quote system, So everyone will know what your referring too, thank you ...

 

 

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?436537-Are-you-disputing-your-energy-bill-with-your-supplier-What-they-won-t-tell-you

 

Have a read of the post in the link above. There might be something in that, that might help :)

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