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Is anybody here familiar with what happens after a successful prosecution and the subsequent publicity that occurs? I have had a look online and it seems all councils publish successful prosecutions.

 

I wonder does anybody know if all prosecutions make the press or if in some circumstances they can be kept out of the press. What reasons might they be kept out of the press?

 

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Court proceedings are public in most circumstances, and the press is free to report on them. Whether they do so or not depends, I suppose, on how newsworthy they think the matter is and what else is going on that day that they might wish to put in the paper.

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Are you planning on murdering someone? Or doing somethign stupid?

 

Please tell us more so the correct advice can be given

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OK thanks, Just out of curiosity, if a person was to die before they were charged then would it still be reported in the press that they were being investigated? Or am I correct in thinking cases are only reported once a conviction has taken place?

Just curious at what point it becomes public interest.

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In the public interest is not the same as "some of the public are interested in it"

 

There are two conflicting human rights here : both of which are "qualified" rather than "absolute" : so it becomes a balancing exercise between the Press claiming their Article 10 right to freedom to disseminate information, against an individual's Article 8 right to private life.

 

Absent special circumstances (threat to life from information being published, the convicted being a juvenile and so on) I would expect that a conviction can be published. There will be a strong "public policy " argument in favour of allowing publication : both to dissuade possible offenders and to reassure the public that abuse of the money they pay towards a public safety net is taken seriously and punished.

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OK thanks, Just out of curiosity, if a person was to die before they were charged then would it still be reported in the press that they were being investigated? Or am I correct in thinking cases are only reported once a conviction has taken place?

Just curious at what point it becomes public interest.

Thanks very much for replying x

 

Jimmy Savile was never charged or Cyril Smith.

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You can't libel nor slander a dead person .....

 

Agreed but obv these were well known personalities who were never charged but were reported in the press so it can happen. In the scenario outlined by the OP it seems unlikely the press would have access to information about someone being investigated for benefit fraud, or would even be interested unless the circumstances were exceptional.

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Agreed but obv these were well known personalities who were never charged but were reported in the press so it can happen. In the scenario outlined by the OP it seems unlikely the press would have access to information about someone being investigated for benefit fraud, or would even be interested unless the circumstances were exceptional.

 

True enough. Perhaps a better example would be Cliff Richard, who has not yet been charged with any offence. And it was well-known that that bloke from Corrie was being tried for a sex offence for quite some time before the trial actually started. But these are people who are somewhat famous. I can't see the press having information about Joe Bloggs being investigated for benefit fraud, or being interested in publishing it even if they did.

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Everyone is anonymous here. .....

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Tell us what has happened and there are "people" (CAGGERS) who will help.

 

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Everyone is anonymous here. .....

NO one is going to "Judge" you.

 

Tell us what has happened and there are "people" (CAGGERS) who will help.

 

As Post #4 SabreSheep said " Don't do something stupid".

 

 

I echo what F16 has stated above!

 

Please do talk to someone (even if you feel you cant speak about it on here) as if you are in a situation, then you need help asap.

 

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Just make sure that you co-operate fully at the IUC. From what you say it does seem you deliberately hid capital but by co-operating and paying any overpayment back you may be able to minimise the damage.

 

It might be worth consulting a solicitor.

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Just make sure that you co-operate fully at the IUC. From what you say it does seem you deliberately hid capital but by co-operating and paying any overpayment back you may be able to minimise the damage.

 

It might be worth consulting a solicitor.

 

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Yes I did deliberately hide it, I admit that fully. I was making plans to leave this life and became obsessed with having enough funds for it. Not good I know but that is all I could think about at the time. No problems admitting everything or paying it back but worried about the publicity, it will finish me off.

Thanks for taking the time to reply though

 

I'd like to think that the interviewer will have some sympathy that you were in a bad place at the time. Please don't think I'm judging you, but playing devil's advocate, this went on for 4 years and you admit was deliberate. Just be honest because as you now know, dwp can find out the truth of your financial affairs, and if they catch you out in a lie you'll lose all credibility.

 

When is your interview?

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Btw, the media won't know about an iuc, but I hope by cooperating you may avoid prosecution. Just concentrate on what's happening now and not what might or might not happen in future. :)

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I'd like to think that the interviewer will have some sympathy that you were in a bad place at the time. Please don't think I'm judging you, but playing devil's advocate, this went on for 4 years and you admit was deliberate. Just be honest because as you now know, dwp can find out the truth of your financial affairs, and if they catch you out in a lie you'll lose all credibility.

 

When is your interview?

 

Interview is not for a couple of weeks yet. Gives me a bit of time to consider my options I guess.

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I second the suggestion to seek the help of a solicitor before your IUC. This is especially the case since, while you do acknowledge that you did not declare the money, you do seem to have some mitigating circumstances that you would wish to be taken into account when the DWP decides whether or not a prosecution would be in the public interest.

 

The mere fact that an IUC has taken place will not be made public.

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I have no problem admitting any of it, I might even cope with court. Never touched a penny of it and only held on to it incase of the worst case scenario.

Anyways it is what it is and now I have to deal with the matters at hand.

If anyone here has been through it but managed to keep the details out of the press or knows about anyone who has please let me know it might give some hope.

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In the end this person wasn't prosecuted but there was never any mention of it in the press. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?325989-Benefits-being-stopped-and-massive-bill&highlight=mandy

 

 

I hope that gives some reassurance.

 

 

Out of interest, have you seen a lot of cases in your local press of people being accused of benefit fraud?

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Thanks I will have a read of the link now.

I don't recall the specifics of any cases in my local paper until all this started because it was something I never thought about, perhaps glanced over the odd one here and there and thought nothing of it to be honest. But recently I have started reading lots, guess I am now primed to notice them.

Some cases even make the national press. One poor woman I read about was mentally ill and lived very frugally because she was worried about old age and saved all her money, she got prosecuted and they took it all back. I really don't think that needed to be in the paper.

I can understand it being an interesting story when people have had thousands and spent it on holidays and property but I think some cases should be dealt with more privately.

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So until this became an issue for you, you didn't notice these kinds of cases. No doubt others will be the same.

 

 

If it happens you'll have no choice but to deal with it, but no point worrying about something that

 

 

1. May never happen.

2. Is outside your control.

 

 

I'm a great believer in not worrying about things you can't do anything about.

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I think that's good advice from Caro.

 

If you are prosecuted the council may or may not choose to do a press release - depends on the councils policy. If you are prosecuted then it's in an open court and sometimes reporters go to court to see if there are any interesting cases.

 

If you are just interviewed and maybe get an ad pen then it's confidential & will not be in the press.

 

I suggest you forget about it & cross that bridge if it comes. Unless there is something interesting about your case it probably won't be reported

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