Legal to trade non-alcoholic beer out of licensing hours?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

What does it matter what aisle they are on? The aisle was open. It contains no alcohol. There was no law preventing them from selling the item. Coming back a second time was an unnecessary inconvenience for me. I'm as right as dodgers to complain about it.

 

I find your attitude and suggestion that my grievance is driven by an 'addiction' an insult.

 

Little thing called customer service goes a long way. Whoever decided to group non-alcoholic drinks entirely within the same category as all alcoholic drinks, including licensing laws, in the first place is a moron. This should never have been an issue, and based on that hardly anyone will probably ever want to buy non-alcoholic beer outside of licensing hours anyway then what's the harm in allowing it? Oh my god! He wanted a 6 pack of beck's blue and a pint of milk at 8.15am!

 

I drank one of these outside Tesco the other week and got so many dirty looks and comments made deliberately within an earshot, none of them realising it was non-alcoholic and that it was even illegal anyway. Why doesn't anyone ever complain about people smoking outside supermarkets, in the bike shed when I turn up out of breath, nice lung full of carcinogenic particles mmmmm

 

I agree there is no "law" to prevent a retailer selling anything, but there is also no law saying they must sell anything, there is also no law preventing smoking in the open air, so hospitals have banned smoking on the ground most schools do as well.

 

 

As the Imp has said heads they win tails you lose!!

[physicsgraduate]

I agree there is no "law" to prevent a retailer selling anything, but there is also no law saying they must sell anything, there is also no law preventing smoking in the open air, so hospitals have banned smoking on the ground most schools do as well.

 

 

As the Imp has said heads they win tails you lose!!

 

What...

 

There are laws preventing them from selling whatever they want, I guess you just didn't think about what you were saying there, right?

 

And this isn't Game of Thrones, if it had been I'd have flayed their guards and walked out without paying.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

What...

 

There are laws preventing them from selling whatever they want, I guess you just didn't think about what you were saying there, right?

 

And this isn't Game of Thrones, if it had been I'd have flayed their guards and walked out without paying.

Laws controlling sales I think is what you mean.

This is a dead end thread now.

[physicsgraduate]

Laws controlling sales I think is what you mean.

This is a dead end thread now.

 

OK, well thanks for rectifying me. You going to close my thread now? No-one interested in the outcome..

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

OK, well thanks for rectifying me. You going to close my thread now? No-one interested in the outcome..

None of my business, closing threads that's for moderators, personally I can see no point in this now.

[physicsgraduate]

Well thanks for expressing your disinterest all the same.

[SabreSheep]

They can put stuff through as anything they want, it's at their discretion. They do that when something doesn't scan through. Or they could rebrand Beck's blue as a soft drink and put it along side the shandies, which also probably contain more alcohol and are less healthy.

 

That would involve applying common sense though.

 

When something does not scan it is not on their automatic ordering system or theres a technical glitch.

 

Scanning every non alcoholic drink through after hours will affect the book stock and cause problems with their ordering software. Remember if they were allowed to do it for you they would be allowed to do it for many others causing problems. Think bigger than just yourself.

[physicsgraduate]

When something does not scan it is not on their automatic ordering system or theres a technical glitch.

 

Scanning every non alcoholic drink through after hours will affect the book stock and cause problems with their ordering software. Remember if they were allowed to do it for you they would be allowed to do it for many others causing problems. Think bigger than just yourself.

 

I know why things don't scan in, I understand what a database is.

 

They have a system for accounting for stock sales in different ways. I have already offered a solution, put them by the soft drinks. Oh but that would encourage children to drink alcohol! And selling shandy doesn't?

 

Please don't fret everyone, I'm going to be ok. This is unlikely to ever happen again, I'll make sure I buy my non-alcohol beer within the same designated time frame as the alcoholic beers like a fine law-abiding citizen.

 

Think bigger than just yourself.

 

I know, the moon! The entire universe!

 

Joking aside, I thought this place was all about fighting for our consumer rights, or am I in the wrong place?

 

Go on, some tell me that they were within their rights not to sell me the beer again. In case I forget again.

[renegadeimp]

Well you do seem to be ignoring it. I gave you the info as it actually is as i work behind the scenes for one of the big 4 supermarkets. If you choose to ignore it and start some kind of crusade, by all means go for it. You wont make the slighest bit of difference to the policy. As brig said, there are all manner of reasons why some stores will not sell certain items to various people, or limit that item for sale in general.

 

Since you seem to be adamant starting an argument, even though correct info has been given, i will satisfy your desire and bow out of the thread.

[physicsgraduate]

Please feel free.

[BazzaS]

!

 

Joking aside, I thought this place was all about fighting for our consumer rights, or am I in the wrong place?

 

Go on, some tell me that they were within their rights not to sell me the beer again. In case I forget again.

 

If you have that short an attention span that you need reminding, why should trying again be any more effective?.

 

Your "consumer rights" are:

1) to whinge here, then grumble when people disagree with you. (Since no-one seems to be agreeing with you on the thread : should we be prepared for a rousing chorus of "the lurkers support me in e-mail !" ?)

2) To whinge to their head office, who might have a good chuckle and ignore you or send you a "pacify the irrelevant complainant " letter. If you are very lucky and catch someone on a good day you might get a "we are sorry you feel that way" response

3) Shop elsewhere. I'm sure they'll miss your custom & "slight argument"(s ).

[physicsgraduate]

You know, I said the other day in another thread I was going to donate something, and I actually had trouble with paypal that day so left it and have been busy since with a lot of things, not least having to go back and forth to supermarkets who wont sell me items they are legally entitled to if they want. I have been meaning to get round to making this small donation soon but you know, I've just been insulted so many times in this thread today that I might just not bother now.

[BazzaS]

You know, I said the other day in another thread I was going to donate something, and I actually had trouble with paypal that day so left it and have been busy since with a lot of things, not least having to go back and forth to supermarkets who wont sell me items they are legally entitled to if they want. I have been meaning to get round to making this small donation soon but you know, I've just been insulted so many times in this thread today that I might just not bother now.

 

Donate or not : up to you.

 

It is a self-help website. You ask for opinions and you'll get them.

 

Those opinions may not coincide with yours. If that means CAG doesn't get a donation then the site team need to decide:

1) give in to the blackmail. ("Stop the nasty people disagreeing with me or I won't donate"), or

2) Say "hey, we allow posts that disagree, provided they meet CAG guidelines ; we accept that that may mean some people who get butt-hurt from not getting the sycophantic reception they expected might then not donate: but that's a price we are willing to pay "

 

Here's hoping the site team continue with option 2 .....

 

Incidentally, if you found the responses "insulted so many times" - you should reconsider if you have the emotional fortitude to venture onto the Internet . I saw only opinions that disagreed with you : rather than insults.

[physicsgraduate]

I just don't like the attitude some people are giving me here, it's uncalled for. So when I now think to myself, I better get round to making that donation I promised for the help I got the other day THIS all kind of puts me off, it's got nothing to do with blackmail. Seriously, what planet are you guys on today? You all go out last night and not get laid or something?

[BazzaS]

I just don't like the attitude some people are giving me here, it's uncalled for. So when I now think to myself, I better get round to making that donation I promised for the help I got the other day THIS all kind of puts me off, it's got nothing to do with blackmail. Seriously, what planet are you guys on today? You all go out last night and not get laid or something?

 

You are so right.

We all should just agree with you, to make you happy, and so you can feel we got laid & are on the same planet.

 

Do you now feel you have achieved your "consumer rights" by someone agreeing with you for the sake of it?

 

P.S. Can we have the donation now?

[physicsgraduate]

There it is again! It's not the fact people are disagreeing with me that bothers me, it's the insulting way in which they are expressing it. Never seen this before on here, mostly folks seem quite civil to each other.

 

Whatever, I've come to learn not to expect much from people anywhere these days, especially not the internet.

[BazzaS]

There it is again! It's not the fact people are disagreeing with me that bothers me, it's the insulting way in which they are expressing it. Never seen this before on here, mostly folks seem quite civil to each other.

 

Whatever, I've come to learn not to expect much from people anywhere these days, especially not the internet.

 

Person A says to person B : "You are an idiot who can't string 2 electrons together on a screen, and I want the oxygen you are wasting back " ; that is an insult. Not allowable by CAG posting guidelines as far as I'm aware.

 

Person A says to person B "I disagree with you because ......" : that is not an insult. It is disagreement. As far as I am aware, allowable by CAG guidelines. (Then again, I'm not 'site team ')

 

Any posts you think you've been insulted in, report.

Let the site team decide. Simples.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Seems like a grudge against retailers, it was suggested (on another thread) hiding a fault on a camera screen to enable getting a refund / replacement.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

There it is again! It's not the fact people are disagreeing with me that bothers me, it's the insulting way in which they are expressing it. Never seen this before on here, mostly folks seem quite civil to each other.

 

Whatever, I've come to learn not to expect much from people anywhere these days, especially not the internet.

 

 

The people here site team included volunteer there time and expertise to help others.

CAG is a " Self Help" site, you can take advice, use it or ignore it is entirely your choice.

 

 

I have seen nothing insulting or disparaging from anyone who has contributed.

Go a head make your complaint to ASDA.

[physicsgraduate]

Oh right well thanks for clarifying that for me, I guess I'm just a born whinger and this is all trivial and silly. Now I can stop lying to myself and admit my own failings, that I'm addicted to Beck's blue and need rehab.

[physicsgraduate]

Seems like a grudge against retailers, it was suggested (on another thread) hiding a fault on a camera screen to enable getting a refund / replacement.

 

Another slur against my character. Are you really so sad that you are actually looking through other threads I posted in to find ways in which to bring me down?

[physicsgraduate]

Mods, please lock the thread. I'll take this up with Asda anyway. Noone seems interested in finding out the outcome is and seem to all know what it will be anyway so there's nothing to be gained from this anymore.

[BazzaS]

Oh right well thanks for clarifying that for me, I guess I'm just a born whinger and this is all trivial and silly. Now I can stop lying to myself and admit my own failings, that I'm addicted to Beck's blue and need rehab.

 

Dear CAG'ers:

Based on this latest response, I'm undecided - can I call for votes?

 

a) troll?

b) drama llama?

c) passive aggressive?

d) hard done by, genuine poster?

e-f,g,h, etc) other?

 

Edited to add:

 

OP has now asked for the thread to be closed:

Excellent.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Another slur against my character. Are you really so sad that you are actually looking through other threads I posted in to find ways in which to bring me down?

It was you who referred to another thread and as it happens I had viewed that one as well so I did not need to look for it.

I just have a good memory for doubtful posts.

[physicsgraduate]

It was you who referred to another thread and as it happens I had viewed that one as well so I did not need to look for it.

I just have a good memory for doubtful posts.

 

You have an aptitude for being pedantic, and a talent for argumenta ad hominem.

 

Nothing dishonest about what I did in the other thread. They accepted it back on the basis it had a small scratch on the screen and in fact it wasn't even mentioned, it was completely irrelevant anyway.