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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Someone has just personally delivered a Statutory Notice from a law firm acting for Lowell Portfolio, so I know I have 18 days from today. Not sure when that takes me to - is it working days or calendar days?

 

The form states the original creditor is Equidebt who I am fairly sure I have never taken out any credit cards or loans with. So I think they bought the debt themselves. I don't recognise the actual amount stated (I have an old Experian report from June 2009) so I'm guessing there may be charges added on. The default date stated is 13 October 2008 and I don't recognise that either.

 

I see from other cases that I should submit a form requesting details of the debt and copies of anything I might have signed. I presume I send that to the law firm, to Lowell and to Equidebt? I have addresses for the law firm and Lowell, but not for Equidebt although the paperwork does give and "original account number" from them.

 

Do I contact anyone and say anything else in the meantime?

 

I think I'm going to need step-by-step guidance here!

 

Anyone up for it?

 

I've looked round the site and read as much as I can. Sad to see this is a common problem and embarrassed to post this as a new thread but done so as everyone's case is slightly different and it's no good me following good advice for someone else if it is not relevant to me! Hope I've posted this in the right place.

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Write to the law firm to request all the details for this debt. Equidebt are purely the previous debt owner who would have purchased it off the original creditor. You don't need to send anything to Equidebt, as they are no longer around ( in administration)

 

Send a CCA request to Lowells. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387435-CCA-Request-Consumer-Credit-Act-1974

 

It is probably for a credit card or storecard or catalogue debt. The statutory declaration should provide some details of the debt.

 

You will receive some help on CAG with what to do, but there are some Solicitors around who may help you on a no win no fee basis. If you do some searches online, you may find them.

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You have 18 calendar days from the date the SD was served to apply for the set aside.

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Unless I'm wrong Equidebt were a debt buyer in the Midlands that went bust a few months ago, they in turn probably purchased that debt from someone else most likely the actual original creditor, it sounds to me like Lowell have bought some debt from Equidebt and the stat demand has been filled out incorrectly which should be grounds alone for setting it aside.

 

You should direct your request for information to the law firm yes as well as making your application to set aside which would need to be served on them also.

 

May even be worth a complaint to the relevant bodies for stat demanding over a 'fresh air' debt.

 

Thanks

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Thank you, UB67. Will do.

 

Thank you, G_N. I like your style, please tell me more about complaining about them! However, I thought not responding to a CCA was one of the grounds for requesting a set-aside? So don't I have to do that first, give them the time and then do the set-aside?

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I've been racking my brain since seeing this 5 hours ago and finally I remembered. In Sept /Oct 08 Equidebt bought a tranche of debts from MBNA , some of which were originally Alliance and Leicester. Did you hold such a card? The ones EQ failed to collect on were subsequently snapped up at bargain basement rate by Lowell when EQ were holding a desperate fire sale.

But it defeats me how you could be in this position without having received plenty of threatening letters prior to this . . . unless you changed address . . . or they are barking up the wrong victim.

That's why you should do as Uncle B advised.

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Oleg and CQ, thank you.

 

It could well be MBNA, I'm pretty sure I had one of those. They don't appear on my Experian report from June 2009, so I presume they had already sold it on to someone else who then sold it to Equidebt who sold it to Lowell. There may have been others before that! MBNA has long since received enough money to make them satisfied or they wouldn't have sold it in the first place. As you say, the original paperwork may not exist any more.

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Okay, for clarity, I'm filling in the CCA Request form with Lowell as the "creditor" but I'm posting it to their solicitors (as UncleB said). I'll add a covering letter to them.

 

I note they have 12 working days to reply while I only have 18 calendar days. Their deadline is a week later than mine so I won't be able to cite non-compliance on my set-aside request.

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Okay, I'm finally steeling myself to go to the Court tomorrow so have been studying the forms.

 

I think there's a problem. The auto-link feature which links the words "set-aside" on this site to another page of explanation seems to be sending me to the wrong information. What I end up with is a form N244 from the Commercial Court of the Royal Courts of Justice. It looks fiendish which is why perhaps I have taken so long to force myself to deal with it. However, if I Google for "statutory demand set aside" I find an entirely different page of explanation here: hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/loc011-eng.pdf

 

This form is quite explicitly the one I need and it sends me to the Insolvency Service web site to download forms 6.4 and 6.5. So that's what I'm planning to do. These forms apparently do NOT require court fees while the other one says the fee is £60 (which I don't have at present).

 

So this is quite serious. Am I doing something wrong???

 

(Aside from the fact it won't let me post links which kinds of defeats me)

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The N244 is used to set a side a judgment (CCJ) for Stat Demands go here:-

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?406102-LEGAL-Form-6.4-amp-6.5-Application-to-set-a-side-a-Statutory-Demand

 

 

Regards

 

 

Andy

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Hi andyoch, thanks for the reassurance. As a member of the site team you ought to know that when the site auto-links terms like "I need to do a set aside" or "you need to do a set aside" or "how do I do a set aside" it links to the CCJ set aside which tells you to submit form N244. Can I respectfully suggest someone needs to look into that? It caused me a lot of worry and wasted time.

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I simply do not have time to check every autolink and advise on all the threads that I do NatWest...but I have reported it to admin to amend the link for set a side on SD,s.

 

 

Regards

 

 

Andy

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Auto link now amended to incorporate Statuary Demands.

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Thanks again andyorch, I know you do a lot and I wasn't expecting you to do it personally but I figured you'd know a man who does... Or it could even be a lady...

 

I saw the comment above about possibly being MBNA and that rang a bell, I did have a loan with them but that is one of the few I did manage to pay off in full.

 

I shall just have to wait and see what the CCA request draws out of the woodwork.

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If it was me in your position then I would certainly be setting this aside, you will (as you correctly found out) need forms 6.4 and 6.5, you will need to take the original demand with you into court along with the 6.4 and 6.5 completed along with any accompanying letters or any other evidence. - please take a look at this thread which you may find useful - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?389230-Help-Lowell-Statutory-Demand-LIttlewoods-Cat-debt-amp-store-card-together-**SET-ASIDE**&highlight=statutory

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