How To Decline A Smart Meter

[Clear33]

Apparently my electricity metre is up for renewal.

 

I have only just discovered that Smart metres are the replacements. And that some people feel these have been causing health problems.

 

I know I am Electrosensitive.

 

How do I make sure they are not going to install a smart metre since I dont know what they look like?

 

I emailed but got no reply.

 

I guess recorded delivery letter and get the guy on the day to sign a document confirming he understand i do not want a smart metre and will not install one.

 

Am I legally entitled to refuse a Smart metre?

 

Thanks.

[dx100uk]

why do you think a smart meter [although is a smart metre more or less than a normal metre in length:-D?]

 

would effect you?

 

what do you think these do rather than a normal one [bar p'haps a WiFi linkage - and you must already have wifi I bet anyhow?]

 

what have you been reading and where?

 

regards

 

dx

[Clear33]

I know myself to be Electrosensitive scale from mild to severe.

 

I think around the world this illness is treated as psychosomatic with no basis in 'science' ... or the more enlightened hospitals abroad have specially designed rooms to eliminate problem.

 

And the councils will pay to protect your home from EMF etc. (could be Sweden or Belgium, cant remember).

 

At this point in time I am reading anecdotal evidence of people who are suffering health problems after smart metre has been installed.

 

I dont think proper science exists yet.

 

It seems some places in America have banned them.

Dr.Rea, an Environmental doctor , does not know the mechanism yet causing the problem. Its not the radiation in his opinion.

 

My point is though I have enough physical health problems.

 

At this point in time, if there is even a **slight** chance of further health problems - then I dont want it.

 

edit : nope. no wifi.

 

Best,

Clear33

[Clear33]

http://m.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120601/OPINION03/206010301/-1/OPINION&template=wapart

 

The WHO advises a precautionary approach.

[Clear33]

http://www.scottishpower.co.uk/energy-efficiency/smart-meters/faqs

 

It says here there is no legal obligation to get a Smart Metre installed but Scottish Power is supportive of the Government Mandate.

 

Best

Clear33

[Surfer01]

I know myself to be Electrosensitive scale from mild to severe.

 

I think around the world this illness is treated as psychosomatic with no basis in 'science' ... or the more enlightened hospitals abroad have specially designed rooms to eliminate problem.

 

And the councils will pay to protect your home from EMF etc. (could be Sweden or Belgium, cant remember).

 

At this point in time I am reading anecdotal evidence of people who are suffering health problems after smart metre has been installed.

 

I dont think proper science exists yet.

 

It seems some places in America have banned them.

Dr.Rea, an Environmental doctor , does not know the mechanism yet causing the problem. Its not the radiation in his opinion.

 

My point is though I have enough physical health problems.

 

At this point in time, if there is even a **slight** chance of further health problems - then I dont want it.

 

edit : nope. no wifi.

 

Best,

Clear33

 

Do you use a mobile phone? Do you have wifi in your home? If you asnwer yest to either of these questions you should have no issue as the SMART meter uses a mobile phone signal to transmit the data once a month and to transmit the date takes a few seconds. I think you are worrying unnecessary. If it were offered to us, we would jump at the chance as I can download the readings direct to my PC at any time.

[Clear33]

http://www.electrosmogprevention.org/public-health-alert/smart-meters-radiation-exposure-up-to-160-times-more-than-cell-phones-hirsch/

 

Here is a graph.

 

i am reading the power of it is equivalent to up to 160mobile phones !!!??

 

Surfer01, I do have a mobile phone and no wifi. I have periods completrly free from my mobile phone though and do what i can to limit my exposure.

 

My metre is situated 3foot from my favourite seat and head of my bed. Plus my cats like sitting on the shelf of the metre .

 

Best

Clear33

 

Edit: and the convenience angle soon becomes a moot point when you end up desperately sick and unable to work as some people have been reporting.

[BazzaS]

 

Plus my cats like sitting on the shelf of the metre.

 

Are you cats 'electrosensitive' too?

 

What sort of monitor does your computer have, and does your computer affect you, too?

[Surfer01]

As said it only transmits once a month for a few seconds so doubt if there is any need for worry. How can it have the same transmitting power equal to 160 mobile phones if it uses a standard mobile phone network like Vodafone. I think you are ading too much into thsi otherwise you woudl not be able to walk past any shop offering free wifi like MacDonalds. However you are not obliged to have a SMART meter installed unless you agreed to it as part of the contract.

[Clear33]

Are you cats 'electrosensitive' too?

 

What sort of monitor does your computer have, and does your computer affect you, too?

 

No, but they have DNA, cells and are as susceptible to distortions as humans are.

 

I dont currently have a computer.

 

Best

Clear33

[Clear33]

As said it only transmits once a month for a few seconds so doubt if there is any need for worry. How can it have the same transmitting power equal to 160 mobile phones if it uses a standard mobile phone network like Vodafone. I think you are ading too much into thsi otherwise you woudl not be able to walk past any shop offering free wifi like MacDonalds. However you are not obliged to have a SMART meter installed unless you agreed to it as part of the contract.

 

Are you able to show me evidence that this smart metre transmits once per month?

 

I am just researching this myself and cant seem to find it anywhere. I am reading its on 24/7...

 

Thanks!

[Surfer01]

Are you able to show me evidence that this smart metre transmits once per month?

 

I am just researching this myself and cant seem to find it anywhere. I am reading its on 24/7...

 

Thanks!

 

My evidence is that I worked for a supplier and arranged for SMART meters to be installed. No necessity for them to be read more than once a month. You may not have your own computer but any computer emits some or other form of radiation

[Clear33]

http://emfhelp.net/smart-meters-clear-present-radiation-danger/

 

Surfer, I cant understand then wht you would possibly say they only transmit once a month ???

 

In the link, there is further explanation of transmissions.

 

Best,

Clear33

 

" We are told that smart meters only transmit for a few brief periods of time every day. Is this true?

Not quite. Smart meters work as part a “mesh network” of smart meters. One smart meter may receive data from another smart meter close by and forward it onwards. This is intended to improve the network’s ability to transmit data reliably all the time. So most of the time your smart meter is probably not transmitting your data but rather working hard to transmit signals as part of its role as a node within the*”mesh network”.*We are led to believe that smart meters transmit for very short periods of time only. For example, one US utility company is claiming their smart meters only transmit for 45 seconds*over a 24 hour period.**This is partial and *misleading information to say the least. Why? Because *the smart meters transmit very sharp and short pulses of 2 millisecond duration each. If you divide 45 seconds by 2 milliseconds you get a total of 22,500 pulses over a 24 hour period. That means that theoretically you can have pulses coming at a rate of 15 pulses per minute non-stop 24/7.

When they first installed smart meters in the apartment building where I was living I was led to believe that these devices would only transmit several times per day. However *I used an RF meter*to measure what was actually going on and was unpleasantly surprised to discover that the smart meters were transmitting every minute or two. Furthermore, because a battery of smart meters was installed in one location (one for each apartment), if you were standing next to it you would be exposed to a constant barrage of short but intense bursts of electromagnetic radiation.

So what is the difference between having a smart meter and owning a mobile phone ?

In short:*HUGE DIFFERENCE.*Most if not all of us own a mobile phone also called a cell phone or cellular phone. These are very versatile and useful technological wonders. However, the downside is that in order to receive and transmit voice, video and data *- mobile phones need to transmit and receive electromagnetic frequencies constantly. Even when they are idling they transmit short bursts of electromagnetic radiation in the RF band (radio frequency band) in order to stay in contact with the closest cell phone tower. BUT there is one HUGE difference between smart meters and cell phones. Smart meters transmit bursts of EMF radiation continuously 24/7 where as the cell phone only does it when WE decide to turn it *on. I own a cell phone and carry it with me everywhere just in case I have an emergency or no other available form of communication. But I keep my phone in air-plane mode or turn it off. This way I limit my radiation exposure to very short infrequent periods of time when I really have no alternative but to use it. Some people carry their cell phone in a radiation blocking case. In any case it is MY CHOICE, MY FREE WILL, MY DECISION when and how to use MY cell phone. But with smart meters *we have no choice, no freedom, no rights. Perhaps installation of smart meters could and should be contested as unconstitutional and an infringement of human rights and liberties on a very large scale."

[Surfer01]

I am surprised that you believe that hogwash as it is a scare mongering site with no credibility. Why would SMART meters want to interact with one another and for the supplier to pay all that extra for additional bandwidth. As said, if you don't want a SMART meter reject it. Your choice but please stopping reading these rumour mongering sites as they seem to be stressing you out.

[BazzaS]

No, but they have DNA, cells and are as susceptible to distortions as humans are.

 

I dont currently have a computer.

 

Best

Clear33

 

What "distortions"?? Are you claiming that electricity / wi-fi / radio waves cause mutations in DNA ?

 

And that all of us are "electro sensitive"?

 

Some humans seem to feel they are ; are there reports of cats showing "electrosensitivity"?. There are lots if cats I've met who seem just fine around all sorts of non-ionising sources.

 

Since you don't have a computer I'll rephrase : how are you accessing the Internet / posting on CAG, and how does what ever you use to do so affect you?

 

As for "radiation blocking cases" for smartphones : what do you think a phone does in one of these cases? The same as if it is more distant from a tower : up its transmit power.

You'd be better closer to a tower with a good signal, it will transmit at a lower power (designed to do so to preserve battery life!).

Edited November 9, 2013 by BazzaS

[Clear33]

I am surprised that you believe that hogwash as it is a scare mongering site with no credibility. Why would SMART meters want to interact with one another and for the supplier to pay all that extra for additional bandwidth. As said, if you don't want a SMART meter reject it. Your choice but please stopping reading these rumour mongering sites as they seem to be stressing you out.

 

I think it good to note that the electricitt company only told me that my metre was to be changed.

 

From a Consumer Action point of view, I was not being informed about the Smart Metre.

 

All I can ask of you again, Surfer, is please provide me with *evidence*

 

that they only transmit once a month.

 

I would gratefully receive it.

 

Legally, I am under no legal obligation to accept the smart Metre. Am drafting letter to record delivery to company declining it. Fortunately I dont live in an appartment or attached property where people are being adversely affected by their neighbours.

 

Best,

Clear33

[Clear33]

What "distortions"?? Are you claiming that electricity / wi-fi / radio waves cause mutations in DNA ?

 

And that all of us are "electro sensitive"?

Some humans seem to feel they are ; are there reports of cats showing "electrosensitivity"?.

 

Since you don't have a computer I'll rephrase : how are you accessing the Internet / posting on CAG, and how does what ever you use to do so affect you?

 

Bazza, i am posting on my mobile phone - Its something i minimise but should not be doing but I trade off so that I can speak to you good internet people

 

Plants can be affected too as well as animals. There is some disturbing scientific data emerging but its really an ongoing experiment.

 

There are enough people who get sick and then trace it back to a mobile mast or smart metre etc. and moving frees them of their symptoms.

 

 

Electrosensitive - too long around it drains me of energy, visual disturbances, fuzzy head, neurological symptoms. Affect multi -body systems. Fluorescent lights particularly problematic and leave a rash around my neck... forget the rest.

Hope that answers enough....

 

Best

Clear33

[Clear33]

http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/latest-british-gas-tactics-you-will-have-a-smart-meter/

 

This is a slightly different approach taken.

[Clear33]

http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/a-reminder-your-rights-in-relation-to-smart-meters/

 

This tells me some of the misleading things that *may* be said to me to get me to have a Smart Metre.

 

It assures me that legally I do not have to have one and that the Government supports this choice - even come 2019.

 

Trust this is legally accurate...

 

Thanks,

 

Clear33

[Clear33]

This has made me question the letter I was sent:

 

"your old meter has reached the end of its operational life and we are legally required under 1989 Electricity Act to replace it"

 

How do I check if my meter has "reached the end of its operational life" ??? And so verify the truth of this statement.

 

Thank you...

[Surfer01]

This has made me question the letter I was sent:

 

"your old meter has reached the end of its operational life and we are legally required under 1989 Electricity Act to replace it"

 

How do I check if my meter has "reached the end of its operational life" ??? And so verify the truth of this statement.

 

Thank you...

 

The supplier has access to this information and the lifespan of the average domestic meter is 20 years and then it needs replacing. You are asking for verification on every thing which is a pointless exercise. I verified that SMART meters are read once a month as I worked in the industry and you dispute my word. Can you imagine the cost to the supplier if the connection was permanent on even activated just once a day? To verify the date of replacement ask your supplier and ask them to verify it with a screen shot of the meter details.

[45002]

I am surprised that you believe that hogwash as it is a scare mongering site with no credibility. Why would SMART meters want to interact with one another and for the supplier to pay all that extra for additional bandwidth. As said, if you don't want a SMART meter reject it. Your choice but please stopping reading these rumour mongering sites as they seem to be stressing you out.

 

Well said there

[Clear33]

Well said there

 

 

No, I have to disagree with you. It was not well said at all. It is in fact rudeness.

 

Not only is it derogatory to imply that looking into these SMART meters is something I should not be doing as its 'hogwash' and stating I am 'getting stressed' and then claiming to be an expert to whom I should simply listen to....just because....and yet offers no evidence as to the claims made of Smart metres sending a signal only once a month.

 

There are EMF meter readers and people are saying they are pulsing strong beams out every few seconds. I am not going to install a SMART meter so that I can learn the hard way that the thing is pulsing 24/7.

 

Best

Clear33

 

" y. For example, one US utility company is claiming their smart meters only transmit for 45 seconds*over a 24 hour period.**This is partial and *misleading information to say the least. Why? Because *the smart meters transmit very sharp and short pulses of 2 millisecond duration each. If you divide 45 seconds by 2 milliseconds you get a total of 22,500 pulses over a 24 hour period. That means that theoretically you can have pulses coming at a rate of 15 pulses per minute non-stop 24/7."

Edited November 10, 2013 by Clear33

[ashmk]

The Smartmeters will join together and rise against us. Judgement day is coming!

[Clear33]

The Smartmeters will join together and rise against us. Judgement day is coming!

 

Thanks for your contribution.