NHS Parking ticket

[Bobton]

I work at a hospital and parked there without buying a ticket as there was no where else. Its an external company called 'Mighty' or something i cant remember. Ive never been worried about parking there as its an external company and ive always been under the impression that unless youve been fined by the police, dvla, council then you can get away with ignoring it. However im surprised to see this ticket has NHS on it.

 

Would you pay it? Can i get away with not paying it? I found it very odd how it doesnt offer anywhere about appealing as they usually do

 

Thanks

 

Edited August 15, 2013 by Bobton

[renegadeimp]

Click the word ignore and read. They cannot 'prosecute' or do anything as they have incurred no losses. It would be different if it was a council maintained car park, but a private company maintains it so they cant do anything.

[filrobbo]

Don't pay or you could write a letter to tell them you will take it up with the land owner and not them.

[Bobton]

thanks, but it threatens with court proceedings. Is that unlikely to happen?

[renegadeimp]

It could but they would have trouble justifying it in court. Especially since you are employed there.

 

Go to the hospital and speak to the dept that handles the car park. They have the power to remove it.

[Sidewinder]

On a separate matter, you might like to ask them whether a 5 year old wrote the notice out that you have attached?

 

'Court proceedings will be issued against you in order to affect recovery'

 

'if judgement is obtained'

 

Get them to write out the words Effect and Judgment 1000 times whilst slapping them about the upper regions with a dictionary!

 

Pedantic rant over, but this shows the extent of the intelligence at play here.

[dw190]

Hospital staff have no authority to discuss this matter!!!!!

 

Quite simple as you are hospital staff. Keep Stum.

[renegadeimp]

Actually with NHS hospitals there is a department that deals with this sort of thing. At least there is the 2 near me.

[filrobbo]

Or ye ant see that sidewinder

[Scouse Magic]

Your Hospital Trust will have a parking management team but the majority of appeals fall on deaf ears where revenue is concerned, a

nd I know because I am an employee NHS too and I even know of relatives rushing in to see dying patients getting a charge notice and the appeal not being upheld..

.How bad is that ???

 

Look on your trust's intranet, somewhere there should be a full copy of the parking policy which explains what happens if the ticket is not paid within 28 days

and who brings enforcement and legal proceedings as the Trust are not entitled to your details from the DVLA..

 

..You could also ask for a Freedom of Information Request to see what exactly all the parking revenue was spent on..

 

.I think it is shocking that Hospitals are profiteering from the sick and needy, and those who care for them and visit them.

 

..especially as the NHS is funded by the tax payer already..

 

...I think you will find that these charges are designed to be a deterrant / punative and therefore not recoverable in law.

 

...Youre not doing yourself any favours by advertising the fact you never buy a ticket as these sites are patrolled by PPCs as much as I hate them..

 

.Regards

Edited August 15, 2013 by Scouse Magic
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[Homer67]

If the hospital is a PFI Trust then they will have nothing to do with the unenforceable invoice as it will be owned by the PFI Company, personally I would ignore.

[Scouse Magic]

Ignoring is one option but you need to be aware of which company the Hospital use to enforce unpaid charge notices and then you can keep us updated and come back at a later stage for more advise....That's because I went to court twice

[armadillo71]

On a separate matter, you might like to ask them whether a 5 year old wrote the notice out that you have attached?

 

'Court proceedings will be issued against you in order to affect recovery'

 

'if judgement is obtained'

 

Get them to write out the words Effect and Judgment 1000 times whilst slapping them about the upper regions with a dictionary!

 

Pedantic rant over, but this shows the extent of the intelligence at play here.

 

They also call it a fine.....

[instrumentsofjoy]

They also call it a fine.....

 

Which in case the original poster doesn't realise it, effectively sinks any case they might have. Not that they do have a case you understand!

 

Basically only local councils and the police are allowed to "fine" people. since their charge is not a pre-estimae of loss, it is a penalty (fine). They can't do that.

[dx100uk]

legal notice..what law?

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

legal notice..what law?

 

dx

I think they are trying to say that it is not an illegal notice.

You will find that the Trust has farmed out all parking activites otherwise they would lose their charitable status and VAT exemptions (medical research) and have to pay corporation tax on the earings. They wont be allowed to spend the money on hospital type things anyway so it is beyond me why they bother to chase the money unless they have shares in the parking co (happens elsewhere).

[Scouse Magic]

I think they are trying to say that it is not an illegal notice.

You will find that the Trust has farmed out all parking activites otherwise they would lose their charitable status and VAT exemptions (medical research) and have to pay corporation tax on the earings. They wont be allowed to spend the money on hospital type things anyway so it is beyond me why they bother to chase the money unless they have shares in the parking co (happens elsewhere).

 

It would be helpful to see the contract between the trust and the parking company / debt collector....A which magazine report publicised a freedom of information request on a dozen or so hospital trusts and found that each one profited more than a million pounds after all running costs...In my case which was brought by roxburghe hiding under the guise of the hospital, they sent me a cheque not the trust when they lost, but in my wifes case which they also lost, roxburghe refused to pay, so the trust paid themselves which leads me to ask who is responsible for what ?? The reality is, parking is big business and its disgusting that the sick and needy are being profited from.

[Scouse Magic]

Ive just had a bit more time to look at the original charge notice and the penny dropped !!! Ureka...The OP should contact his trust's legal department who deal with negligence etc and will have no knowledge of parking issues and get them to scrub the tickets... As one cag reliable member already points out, the trust do not have the statute authority to use the word "Fine" and they could get themselves in trouble for doing so both with the law and the media.

 

They clearly also cannot state that employees may not discuss the matter.....pmsl feck orf........

 

Further down the notice we see Trethowans Solicitors ha ha ha

 

You may also wish to present to the trusts legal team this FOI request following a string of lost court cases by Threthowans Solicitors whos client was Aintree Hospitals in Liverpool..

 

From: FOI REQUESTS

Aintree University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

 

7 November 2011

 

Dear

 

Freedom of Information Act 2000 – Request for Information Reference: 1128

 

 

 

Thank you for your request for information regarding the amount of money

paid out to pursue unpaid parking charges at Aintree University Hospitals

NHS Foundation Trust.

 

 

 

You asked:

 

 

 

Ã* Amount of money paid by Aintree NHS trust to Trethowans solicitors to

pursue unpaid car parking charges over the last two years!

 

 

 

2010-11- £53,093.65

 

2011-12- £63,479.83 to date

 

 

Now wasting public money like that is worthy of any newspaper headline :lol: