Grievance issues

[spirit1star]

Hi again I now have received 3 more emails. One was sent to my line manager asking him to book training for the senior care staff member (who has been given my jobs-she has now taken over all staff personnel files)

the training was for movement to music for people with dementia. the email was not sent to myself-even though i am the activity co-ordinator, and as i book the training i had been given it by my line manager.And other staff were asked to be booked onto this training , not me.

another email from person named in grievance- saying training matrix was out of date- which it was not, so i replied to her about this.

Next email from owner - she had stated in ad hoc meeting that she would now be watching activities-meaning me. she send me an email now saying she wants to attend the meetings, has disregarded the actual committee,which includes myself and chosen a date, shes said going to post letter out to all the families without even consulting, and has told us she wants us to refrain from spending money on social stuff for the residents saying we don't ask their permission- stupid!, they have dementia , i do a best interest decision and inform the committee members. So she is now trying to impede my work in other ways, more indirectly.The owners are not really allowed to interfere with resident fund committee, but they seem to want to now take over that. I am still waiting for grievance hearing minutes and results. hearing took place 18th july and it seems since this date they are picking holes etc wherever they can.. Today i ended up retching at work and had to leave a residents room, to get some air. Next step. do i need to raise another grievance for victimization as this is what im feeling, or still wait for hearing minutes and then do another grievance etc.. Thanks hugely again for your advice,

[Emmzzi]

did you get an outcome to your first greivance? Was it helpful?

 

I' guessing this employer does not really care how you are treated and anther grievance is going to get you labelled as more of a troublemaker.

 

Find a new job, and if you feel the residents are being mistreated, make an anonymous report to the care commission. Making more paperwork? History tells you that is pointless.

[spirit1star]

Hi Emmzzi, no no outcome yet still waiting.Investigating line manager has had trouble getting responses from owners.

I am looking for other work already but am restricted due to medical conditions, will keep trying.

thanks Emmzzi.

[Pusillanimous]

Lodge a formal grievance. You do not have to wait until the other one is dealt with. Without that, your dissatisfaction will not be recognised. Put the clear heading "Formal Grievance" and briefly give full reasons and dates (without flannel) as though addressing it to a future tribunal.

 

Do mention your underlying medical conditions, if relevant to your ability to perform your duties.

 

No harm seeking legal advice.

[Grotesque]

Sorry- 'Find a new job?! Really?! Nonsense. Rogue employers need to be led by the nose, if necessary, and shown their faults, not 'let off the hook' by people just resigning. If an IGP is ignored, another one needs to be lodged, either to HR directly or a senior manager outside your department. And since the OP appears to have been an employee over two years, the next stage would be a tribunal; and it would be worth the OP remembering that ET's look very dimly on so-called 'responsible' companies ignoring ACAS guidelines. And that is something the employer's solicitor's would doubtless advise them too...

 

On edit: Just seen, and ditto, Pusill's post

[Emmzzi]

Grotesque, first concern has to be OPs health. A fight is not always conducive to wellbeing, especially with a disinterested employer. Still, their decision!

[Grotesque]

Can't argue with that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[spirit1star]

ok i have to pay new CRB as owners want every 3 years. i cant afford, offered payments and eventually settled £10 a month for 5 months . and guess what they took about £20 of my wages without my consent.i already told them that even £10 was going to be a struggle as one of the lowest paid employees. and they chose to take out £20.. no wonder i am seriously struggling with food costs.

ive emailed them asking for the money back straight away, (yesterday) they emailed back saying they will reply to my email when they get back from holiday which is 21st September. it was not an automated response she had actually typed message to say she would not respond until then..

One of the other owners has now decided to run shod over the activity commitee which is myself and 2 family members. she had chosen date and time sent letter out for committee meeting without checking the committee members can attend, shes send letter out to family members saying she wants to organize treasures, chair people etc, when we already have. there is a rumor going round she wants to use residents social money to buy a piece of medical equipment, owners are not allowed to take over voluntary and existing committee members, she did say in one of her ad hoc meetings she was going to be watching activities- meaning me.. but is now trying to take over the committee. as regards to meetings any meeting held without the actual committee present are not legal in line with business accounts are they? she refused one of the committee members signing a cheque to get petty cash out to buy items for residents use, ..any thoughts would be appreciated. im not sure what i can do about the money being taken without my consent -but i have proof of the request for £10 only

 

shall i raise complaint or grievance over money? i re emailed to owners again stating i want the money paid back at 1622. i had rely at 0026 stating again the i am not going to respond until i come back from holiday. so again it was not an automated response due to time lapse. if the employer had bothered to tell me they had given the wage slips to the nurses i would have known sooner. this person who replied again was the person named in previous greivance- still no news on that too- investigating line manager said he wanted my medical report first.

 

i had also hurt my arm at work-underlying medical condition prob didnt help) they had dodgy door handle and 4 weeks later im having bad pain in wrist so it hurts to write. one of the partners left a lap top and said i could use. i was going to use as wrist getting worse but missy has taken the laptop stating she wants to make sure their is nothing on it before use. so now writing with pain. one of the owners stated i now have to ring the doorbell to gain entry instead of her replacing the faulty door handle.. god what a mess.

Edited September 15, 2013 by spirit1star

[Pusillanimous]

First of all, did you report the wrist injury in the accident book? You need to record the fact. It sounds as though you are completely stressed out. It is well worth taking a step backwards and not doing anything at all. However, keep a log of your grievances. Put them away in a drawer and forget about them.

 

Revisit in six weeks time, and if you still feel strongly, lodge them. Otherwise you are running around like a headless chicken.

[spirit1star]

Hi all

during a meeting after raising another grievance re harassment, my line manager told me i was being paranoid. he did not give me the option of companion. and for the first time stated that it is difficult to speak to anybody whom you have little or no confidence in when they perceive you are recording all conversations in a book and reflecting back on them, all business's work on trust relationship, being able to speak to staff openly (which i do ), and in your case you are isolating yourself , people are avoiding talking to you or receiving comments from you as they believe you may use it later against them, this then becomes a breakdown in the working relationship and little or no trust. ( dont know where this has come from apart from the fact my line manager said this was from the owners- who i complained about)

the owner made a comment about my speech saying something about waffeling , i also added this in my grievance and he replied that when i am anxious i loose track of what i want to say and he has told me to focus and stick to topic and he said it was appropriate. (actually lady kept repeating herself and asking me the same question over and over again and if i was anxious because of this and ended up waffeling i dont think that was my fault and hence inappropraie to mention it. ) Not sure how i dhould respond to these. im struggling with understanding comments about someones perception of me apparently recording all conversations? i have recorded instances of harrassment at home, but what does he mean. no complaints from staff members or comments from staff passed on from my line manager. could anyone help with response ideas. thanks very very much

[dx100uk]

numerous threads merged again

 

 

please keep to one thread on all related issues

 

 

dx

[lenamartell]

Hi all

during a meeting after raising another grievance re harassment, my line manager told me i was being paranoid. he did not give me the option of companion. and for the first time stated that it is difficult to speak to anybody whom you have little or no confidence in when they perceive you are recording all conversations in a book and reflecting back on them, all business's work on trust relationship, being able to speak to staff openly (which i do ), and in your case you are isolating yourself , people are avoiding talking to you or receiving comments from you as they believe you may use it later against them, this then becomes a breakdown in the working relationship and little or no trust. ( dont know where this has come from apart from the fact my line manager said this was from the owners- who i complained about)

the owner made a comment about my speech saying something about waffeling , i also added this in my grievance and he replied that when i am anxious i loose track of what i want to say and he has told me to focus and stick to topic and he said it was appropriate. (actually lady kept repeating herself and asking me the same question over and over again and if i was anxious because of this and ended up waffeling i dont think that was my fault and hence inappropraie to mention it. ) Not sure how i dhould respond to these. im struggling with understanding comments about someones perception of me apparently recording all conversations? i have recorded instances of harrassment at home, but what does he mean. no complaints from staff members or comments from staff passed on from my line manager. could anyone help with response ideas. thanks very very much

 

Hi. I have only just happened to see your thread. It sounds as though you need some sort of support / representative. How big an organisation is it? Does it have a 'recognised' Trade Union (such as Unison)? And if so, are you a member?

[Emmzzi]

hello,

 

well, you do have a large amount of grievances.

 

you do start multiple threads on the same subject?

 

it can be difficult to understand the point of what you are asking for help on

 

Have you considered that he has a point?

[spirit1star]

hi . it does ot have union. and small workplace thanks

[spirit1star]

sorry did not think to put on same place. thanks for merging. and yes he does have some points but i don't quite understand what he wants, no complaints from other staff and the owner actually stopped me from helping the other staff which most likely created a barrier. i actually have 2 grievances. thanks

my line manager actually said to me he feels like they are taking pots and me and now he says im being paranoid. i have 7 days to reply.

[Emmzzi]

to reply to what?

[stevemLS]

I agree that you need to take a step back and consider the overall position.

 

From an outsider's perspective, tbh you sound to be a bit of a nightmare, I'm sorry but that is the general impression you've created.