Newlyn PLC bailiff visit re:CTAX and my dog

[brassnecked]

If the bailiff does not get a levy, and you don't let him in to seize and list goods, then no matter how many times he calls he can only have a total of £42.50 for a first and second visit fee no matter how many times he calls, or what he attempts to charge.

 

If you let him in and he levies and you default a whole world of new fees for the bailiff gets charged to your account.

 

Don't let him in or deal with him,

[jenni_g]

Thank you for that, I will deal with this exactly as you have described, and let you know the outcome.

[dx100uk]

dont put signs up

 

its admitting liability if someone gets hurt.

 

dx

[jenni_g]

I thought by law you should put signs on to warn, and if someone chose to ignore an enter it would be them who was responsible?

[old bill]

I have to agree with Jenni G, dx.

 

If you have dogs in your home that are, how shall we say, boisterous, putting up signs saying "Beware of the Dog", you are giving visitors fair warning.

 

If they then decide to ignore the sign and proceed and, as a result, the dog takes a chunk out of their backside, they are deemed to have accepted the risk under civil law.

 

No, putting up a "Beware of the Dog" sign is a sensible move.

If a bailiff ignores the sign and gets bitten, that is the bailiff's own fault and they have little, if any, recourse against the dog's owner.

[wonkeydonkey]

It just so happens you can buy a sign that says 'I/we live here' and that I can assure you is perfectly acceptable (Court Tested) because it is not indicating the dog is 'dangerous' it is simply advising they are on the premises!!!

 

WD

[old bill]

Exactly, WD. And if the bailiff is stupid enough to ignore the sign and gets a set of canine teeth embedded in their buttock, that is their own stupid fault. They have accepted the risk and have no recourse.

[wonkeydonkey]

'beware of the dog' has been the subject of many a court case and often said to be giving notice to the dog is adjudged by its owner as 'dangerous' and then you get the charge of keeping a dangerous dog,

I know of several cases where this was argued,

 

 

however the sign 'I/we live here' depicts one or more friendly little faces and is always seen to be 'information' as opposed to a warning and there lies the difference?

 

WD

[brassnecked]

Yes the picture sign is better that a Beware Of the Dog,

I need a Beware of the Cat sign

[ploddertom]

Does anyone know where I can get a "Beware the Wife" sign

[brassnecked]

Find a picture or draw a particularly ugly woman on a piece of A4, print Beware of the Wife in bold caps 70 point Arial, laminate it and stick it in the porch window:lol:

[dx100uk]

Does anyone know where I can get a "Beware the Wife" sign

 

i've got one ...really

 

dx

[tomtubby]

As I have said in my earlier reply, if the bailiff visits you home, he can levy upon your car. A levy fee would then be incurred.

 

If the bailiff is unable to levy upon a car or gain entry into your home, the fees that he can charge are CAPPED at £42.50. It is most important that payment is made for bailiff fees.

[jenni_g]

it is truly ridiculous that a person cannot put a sign on their door to warn about a dog, if they themselves can be prosecuted if the dog then attacks an uninvited visitor! I am looking for an "I live here" sign, I have found a good one, that says "I can reach the door in 5 seconds, can you?" I have seen a few on ebay for both cats and wives

[dx100uk]

sorry dont want to side track the 'real' issue here, but' i live here', is all you need.

 

as post 34.

 

dx

[old bill]

Does anyone know where I can get a "Beware the Wife" sign

 

Yes. A company called Laughter Revolution makes such a sign, along with signs like "Rough Collie Lives Here". I have a sign on my living-room wall that reads thus -

 

Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

Courage to change those things I can and the Wisdom to hide the bodies of

the people I may have to kill because they **** me off!"

[brassnecked]

it is truly ridiculous that a person cannot put a sign on their door to warn about a dog, if they themselves can be prosecuted if the dog then attacks an uninvited visitor! I am looking for an "I live here" sign, I have found a good one, that says "I can reach the door in 5 seconds, can you?" I have seen a few on ebay for both cats and wives

Difference with the cat is that if the cat or cats attacked the bailiff, even with a sign up, they could do diddly squat about it in law, you cannot be held responsible for the actions of a cat, nor can you get a ticket off a CEO if your cat poops in front of them on the pavement. I have come across some vicious cats on house calls which will attack people they don't like the look of.

[Sparks_]

What about a ferret attack? I used to have house ferrets and had a beware of attack ferret on the door!

[old bill]

Anyone wanting Laughter Revolution's contact details, go to http://www.laughter-revolution.com. And the good thing is they are a British company.

 

They even have a sign reading "Never Mind The Dog, Beware of The Owner!"

[jenni_g]

Hmmm, Another thing I have just noticed, when checking the online OFT Consumer credit register, is that Newlyn's licence expired on 22.2.12. Does this mean that they are not licenced to work or act as bailiffs?

[old bill]

I am aware of that Jenni G. According to OFT it has lapsed. Why this is so, I do not know. Not holding a valid OFT Licence means that Newlyn's ability to collect certain types of debt is severely restricted, especially if it requires an OFT Licence. Some public debt contracts require an OFT Licence as a condition of contract/tender. It is open to you to make a complaint to the MoJ via [email protected] and insert the words BAILIFF COMPANY COMPLAINT in the subject box.

[jenni_g]

Hi Old Bill, Would it be worth my while? I have no complaints myself, they have not tried to charge me unfairly, or acted in any way improperly. I just wondered if this meant they were technically not allowed to operate? I am happy to inform anyone of the "powers that be" of this lapse of certification

[old bill]

OFT are already aware of Newlyn's licence having lapsed. It simply means that if Newlyn attempt to enforce any debt for which they are required to hold a valid OFT Licence, they would be acting illegally if they did, whilst unlicensed.

[jenni_g]

Darn it, I thought it might be worth a shot!! Thanks any way

[jenni_g]

Ok guys, Update time. I

 

originally received a hand delivered letter from Newlyn Plc dated 14.9.12 stating the following:

 

"take formal notice magistrates liability order dated 14.8.12 due to council total outstanding £694.50.

 

Since this was delivered I have made 3 payments.

The first was to the bailiff for £34.50 (before I received the advice on here) on 21.9.12

and then I have paid £70.00 to the council 23.9.12,

and another £100 to the council 25.9.12.

 

Today I received another hand delivered letter stating the exact same details as the other one,

but the outstanding is now £719.00.

 

i have only this current years council tax to pay.

 

What do I do now?

 

I have been at home when these notices have been delivered, and there was no knock at my door.

 

Do I contact the bailiff, or the council?

 

These letters do not detail any costs, just an outstanding balance.