Friend taken our van & tools

[thepinguinator]

the officer in charge said he was fine with how the officers delt with it evn though they thought it was quite amuseing and in his eyes its civil and can file a report to ipcc but the report he was writting thet would just take one look and say it was civil so dnt want to go back and get there backs upcos dnt want them giving me hassle back.. so stuck rely at the mo

[thepinguinator]

and it was an inspector we seen at the station

[Ell-enn]

Look in your local paper or yellow pages for solicitors in your area who have free consultation sessions - lots of law firms do this, book an appointment and then you will get the legal position confirmed.

[thepinguinator]

thanks for all help and info on here people. more than i have got from the police anyway .

[renegadeimp]

Let us know how your issue progresses. It may help others in the same situation.

[thepinguinator]

will do ......

[stu007]

Hi

 

Just noticed in your #post43 that the police gave you a Crime Reference Number. (if it isnt classed as a crime by the Police why have they given you a Crime Reference Number?).

 

As you now have a Crime Reference Number I would give this to you car insurance if not cancelled already due to this.

[thepinguinator]

They canceled it and said it was civil law..

[thepinguinator]

spoke to citizens advice .they have said tools are civil and he cannot hold the veichle for them as it is illegal but the police wont get involved with family and friends so if i didnt no him they would have got it back great hey ..so will have to take him to court to get it back. so in the meantime loss of earnings and not being able to pay morgage and other items will i be able to add to my claim.... b ut will take time..

[renegadeimp]

You could also add into the claim for loss of earnings/mortgage payments etc.

[Ell-enn]

Have you tried to get a free session with a solicitor as in my previous post ?

[kregrs]

I experienced something along the lines of your problem, albeit with my dog and not a vehicle. I had split up with my partner in 2008, and shortly after was evicted (illegally), leaving me to spend a few nights in my car, which wouldn't have been fair on my dog. Now, I'd had my dog, Buster, for 6yrs before meeting my then partner, and when we split and I was evicted, I asked her to look after him for me. She then passed Buster onto her parents, and I kept in contact over the coming months, having moved initially into a bedsit, then into a house. On moving into the house I asked my ex partners parents to return Buster, to which they refused. I tried going along the police route, although they refused to help as they stated it wasn't theft, although if I was to go and remove buster from their care it would be construed as theft by myself. The long and short of it is, I had to issue a claim via court for the return of Buster, and the judge, having established that in his view Buster was mine, ordered my ex partners parents to return Buster within 14 days.

What I'm trying to put across is, the law, civil and criminal, are 2 completely different things, and your friend, although he may not have committed an offence in the eyes of the police, may not fare so well if you take the civil route...

[heliosuk]

Which bit of you admit you owe money on the car and that the registration document (V5) clearly states under sedction 5 (C.4.c This document is not proof of ownership) is not sinking in?

 

This is a civil case and the best recourse is to find common ground with your so called friend.

 

Without doubt............it is not theft.

 

Unless you start to negotiate with your friend you are on a hiding to nothing.

[thepinguinator]

i have been told by a solicitor that it is theft bas he has no proof of ownership or the amount he wanted for the veichle or any set payment terms or an agreed time to ay for the veichle .... i have had the veichle in total for 10mths 4 mths on his insurance and then in jan he handed over the v5 and signed it over as i had paid nearly all the 1000 pounds for the veichle ...as we have finished working together and he has taken a big hit in customers going bang on him he is struggling for money.so he has now come back demanding another 500 pounds without any proof and hasnt shown the police any...but because it is a friend or familly police will not get involved if i didnt no him they would have done something. so it is theft as i have the v5 insure it taxed it took it through mot ..as you say v5 is not proof of ownership he has got none whatsoever in writting or an agreement or recipt so what counts as ownership surely i have more writes with everything in my name and he has nothing...and he cannot hold the van for the tools as that is a seperate issue which is civil but he has the tools in the van aswell as the 950 pounds plus the 500 i have already paid of them plus the 1300 pounds the veichle is worth aswell as the expensive stereo and bluetooth system in there. so he cannot do what he is doing so i have to send him a letter of litigation and give him seven days then i can take him to court for loss of earnings as well as bounced morgage payments and everything else and he HAS NO PROOF OF OWNERSHIP as well as the tools have my signature on the recipts how can they put them on his account ?????. the world would be absolute anarchy if we could go and take stuff and say we owned it with no proof at all ....

[renegadeimp]

Good advice from your solicitor there. Follow his instructions and ANY response you get from that idiot with your van MUST be dealt with calmly and professionally. The last thing you want any court to see is that you have a vendetta against him.

[thepinguinator]

thanks for all gthe advice on here has been big help got an oppointment on fri again to sort out next course of action i know it is the slow process but write way to go and will be able to get compensation as is ilegal what he has done so will keep you posted