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If the claim goes against you, it will be very difficult to make a counter claim as you didn’t respond to the initial small claim.   You may be unaware that you are the defendant in a small claims case that a Creditor has bought against you. When the small claims form arrives follow these initial steps:   1: Read the Form Carefully   The detail about the claim that is being bought against you will be in the ‘particulars of claim’ section. If this section isn't completed, or has the words ‘particulars of claim to follow’ take no action now and wait until you are sent details of the claim against you. You may want to consult a lawyer at this stage.   2: Respond in Time   It’s vitally important that you respond to the claim for you have been sent. Remember that there is a 19 day (5 +14) time limit on this to acknowledge the claim.You must submit before the 19 days are up, so post your response with plenty of time.If your intention is to defend the claim in full you get a further 14 days to submit your response ...so 33 days in total.   3: Talk to the Claimant   Just because a small claim has been bought against you and a claim form issued, this doesn’t mean you are not allowed to contact the claimant directly. In fact the court encourages you to try and settle the claim without the need for a court appearance. So, try and resolve your dispute directly with the claimant if you can.   Not Responding to a Small Claim   If you ignore the small claims form when it arrives this can have an adverse impact on your financial status. The court will continue with the small claims lawsuit that is being bought against you even in your absence as this is a legal requirement. When the small claim is processed you will be sent a bill showing the amount you owe and any additional costs. The small claims against you is a legal process that will be recorded on the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines. This information is used to check your credit, so could have a negative impact when you next apply for any credit. To avoid damaging your credit rating reply to your small claims docket as soon as you can.   How to Respond to Your Small Claims Form   When you received your form from the court you will also have been sent a response pack. In this pack you will see the option that are open to you. These include:   • A dispute claim form. You can use this form if you do not agree that you are liable for the small claim being bought against you and wish to submit a Defence. • Details about how to pay the amount being claimed from you. • Details about how to admit to part of the small claim against you, and how you can ask the claimant for more time to pay.   There are Two Types of Small Claims:   Fixed Amounts:   If the claim against you is for a fixed amount of money your response pack will contain three forms. Form N9 (acknowledgement of Service), form N9A (admission form) and N9B (defence and counterclaim form).   Unspecified Amounts:   If the amount being claimed is unspecified you will be sent forms N9 and N9C (admission form) and N9D (defence and counterclaim form). It is vital that you read the accompanying explanatory notes before choosing which form to send back.   Paying the Small Claim   If you want to make full payment of the amount being claimed against you this amount will be shown on the claim for you have been sent, and will also have details about where to send the money. Don’t forget, this must be done within the 14 day time limit or your case will proceed to the next stage.   In some instances you would like to pay, but need more time, you can give details about the delay you would like on form N9A, which should be in your response pack. It’s also a good idea to read leaflet EX309: The Defendant Admits by claim as this gives more details on this aspect of your case when fixed amounts of money are involved. Leaflet EX308 gives details of cases when unspecified amounts are being claimed against you.   Also please read forms EX326 and EX160A   How to Defend a Claim Against You   Disputed claims are handled by filling in the appropriate form from your response pack. You have three choices: Form N9, N9B or N9D. Read the note accompanying each form carefully to ensure you completely correctly. Pay special attention to the allegations raised on the form. If you don’t respond to each the court will assume you are admitting guilt. Edited April 10, 2014 by stu007 Updated PDF added    1   Bookmark   Report 2 months later...   citizenB   Posted June 5, 2014 #3   PLEASE NOTE - WARNING   Once you have received your claim form - the Court timetable comes into force. Not that of the creditor or claimant. If you have requested information with them after the claim has been issued - or have entered into discussion with them and they say something like "We will put this on hold for a period of time". 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I've had a personal issue somebody, and out of the blue, i received an email from them stating that they had used their position in work to look at all my records - police, medical and social services. Its an extremely distressing time anyway die other things happening as well, and this has really made me feel on edge about having my personal information invaded. With regards to telling her place of work - what could actually happen in such a case with regards to an investigation? How will my personal information on myself be protected if she knows things? Is it likely that someone could access all of these records or is it likely to be a fabrication? And - should it be a fabrication - Would she still be disciplined in work? I currently can not sleep over this and the connected matters and want to have an idea of potential backlashes before telling her place of work.

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Would it be possible, without obviously wanting to divulge too many specifics, to tell us what sort of job this person has?

 

Anyone with access to your personal records, whether through their occupation or so on, must have a genuine reason for accessing them. They must also ensure that they remain private and confidential. I am certain that if this individual has accessed them without 'due reason' then they would be likely to face disciplinary proceeding with their employer, and possibly legal proceedings too?

 

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I can't imagine where she works to have access to all of those, so it might be that she's just trying to wind you up. However, if she's telling the truth, then doing this would qualify as gross misconduct so she's in serious trouble, quite frankly. As Phil says above, she could be in legal trouble, too.

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She has a position within a government agency that deals with sensitive information - therefore i have reason to believe that yes, she could access my details. Do you know how the matter would be dealt with?

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Do you have a copy of the communication wherein they state they have accessed your information? If so, and it appears to be genuine on the basis of your obvious dealings with this person previously, perhaps you should contact the police?

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Yes - I have a copy of the email she has sent. What could the police actually do with regards to this? There are subtle threatening tones in the email about using information she has obtained on me against me - I have my own business and the main reason i have not immediately contacted her work is for fear of my reputation being ruined. Should i take this further - and she, for example, got the sack - what grounds would i have to ensure my personal information then does not become public knowledge?

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There are people on this forum with perhaps more legal knowledge than I with regards to what action could be taken in this matter.

 

However, if she has made insinuations within her email to you that she will use your sensitive information against you, then perhaps she shouldn't occupy the position that she does?

She is probably just adding fuel to the fire that you both obviously have going on between you, and is intending to scare you. For what reasons, I'm unsure.

 

Anyone else got any advice for Janice?

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Well, what they would do would partially depend on the content of the email - what you're hinting at is veering towards blackmail, so I suspect she'd find herself in serious trouble.

 

ETA: In my opinion, she's unlikely to be arrested for accessing your personal information, but the chances of prosecution would increase if she actually made that information public. If she's using the information to blackmail you, then I would imagine prosecution is inevitable.

 

IMO, she would definitely get sacked if her employer found out about the access.

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I'm not sure anyone on here would be able to reassure you of that - if she's already accessed the information, she can't "un-know" what she's already found out. If you mean that you want to be reassured that she can't access your information in future, then the only way you would be able to do that is to contact her employer to make sure that her access is removed.

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Well, exactly! The only reassurance that I can give is that I can't think of any agency that would have complete access to Police, Medical and Social Services. Social Services might have access to small amounts of data from each one, I suppose. My gut feeling is that this is a scare tactic, if not a very clever one. Even if she's lying, if her employer is told she's using her position to manipulate someone into believing that they know her personal business, she's probably still going to face a disciplinary - one which will very likely result in her being sacked anyway.

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I agree.

 

If I worked within a 'Government Agency' with such wide-reaching access and wanted to gain information on someone to use against them, I suppose the last thing I'd do is actually tell that person, or I'd leave myself wide open to attack.

 

As a result, I don't think you've got much to worry about. However, I'd still take it further and present your email to her employer.

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What i would suggest is making a Formal Complaint in writing to that Goverment Agency about the Employees email sent to OP enclosing a copy of said email as evidence.

 

even if this was a joke its a sick joke and more than likely breaches that agencies own internal policies like ICT Policy, Electronic Communication and Security Policy.

 

Also if this was sent by this individual using that agencies email account and signed or printed at end of email that individuals name and agencies status it would open a further can of worms. As this individual would then by doing this if they have brought that agenices name into disrepute and most places dont take very kindly to this thus "Gross Misconduct".

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Absolutely agree with all of the above. Even IF (and I think it a fairly big IF that this person has access to all of that information) then it's use has to be very strictly controlled and without due cause to use it, even the threat from a Government employee that it may be used for frivolous purposes would guarantee the originator of the email to be in serious trouble - they would be most unlikely to keep their job!

 

Stu007 is spot on - get a formal complaint in with a copy of the email which you have received, demand that they disclose the level of information which is held about you and demand that they cease and desist using your personal information in this manner. You might also threaten to report the matter to the ICO and take the matter up with your MP to raise the issue at an appropriate level.

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I can't think of any government agency where a single individual could access such a range of information, especially without the subject's consent.

 

DBS NSV (formerly the Defence Vetting Agency) can access various sources of personal data, but the subject would be aware and would have to consent.

 

Even if the security services were able to access sensitive data without the individual's consent (for example, in the interest of national security), this wouldn't happen without a grown-up signing-off, and it certainly wouldn't be dealt with by one individual.

 

Access to the Police National Computer is strictly controlled and recorded, so anyone misusing it is leaving themselves in a very vulnerable position. Even someone working in CRB checking would need the individual's consent.

 

In any event, anyone who has access to sensitive data of any sort and abuses their position should be reported. If such an individual works in an area that involves defence or security, the matter goes beyond a personal dispute and raises serious questions about the individual's suitability for their role. Such people may be a security risk, at worst. OP should write to the agency, raising their concerns and enclosing details of the email sent by the individual.

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I agree, I can't think of a single Government Agency with access to all of those things.I think they may be bluffing, however I would call their bluff and take the email to the police and make a complaint.If they have access to the police national computer and have checked your records on it then it would be very easy for the police to check. Everyone who has access to it has their own user id and password and you need to enter a code into each time to record the reason why you are looking at a record or conducting a name search.Its a criminal offence to look at data on the police national computer without permission. I know this because I worked in a government agency which used it and a member of staff was caught checking his neighbours on it, the only reason we found out about it was because the police marched into the office and marched the man out in cuffs.Even if she hasnt accessed your records the police and her employer would give her a good ticking off for making the threat that she did I would also imagine her employer would take action against her.

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I've just re-read your original post. I think what I might have missed is that you're concerned that if you involve her employers, and she loses her job, this might trigger her into releasing the information publicly? If this is the case then all I can add is that if she does do that, then the Police would almost certainly get involved. I imagine any work disciplinary procedure would include warning her that if the information is leaked, she will leaving herself open to prosecution.

 

Honestly, she's been incredibly stupid just by emailing you and implying that she can access your data. For one thing, I think she's talking nonsense. For another, as has already been said, just the threat of doing it could result in her losing her job, almost certainly so if she used her work email address.

 

If it was me, I would report the matter to her employer as a matter of urgency.

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