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Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. 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Hi,

 

I've been receiving letters from Capquest re a Next Directory account and

 

thanks to reading the helpful posts on CAG I sent them the CCA request letter recorded delivery on 1st June.

 

I received the following letter back dated 3rd June:"

 

Further to recent contact wtih our office and your request for further information in relation to the above account,

we would confirm that your account is now on hold for 28 days whilst we obtain the information required.

 

If you have any proof of payments or correspondance that would assist with your query,

please forward these documents, with a brief covering letter to our Collections Administration department,

so that we can resolve this matter as soon as possible."

 

Obviously I didn't assist them and sent nothing.

 

Then I received this letter dated 8th June:"

 

Further to your recent correspondence and in order to process your communication further,

we would request you provide the following information by 17 June 11 to assist us in resolving this matter.

 

Proof of residence at the time this account was opened: 1st December 2008

 

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Please note this is not a demand but a request.&quot

 

;My question is what do I do now?

 

I'm not going to kindly assist them by sending them anything and interestingly

I'm pretty sure that the account was opened well into 2009.

 

Do I send them this letter from the library and then what?

 

Or do I wait?

 

Help, confused myself reading too many forum posts.

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Hi there

 

In my view, if they are chasing you for a debt they should be aware of their facts. I don't think you should be giving them assistance.

 

You're telling me Mr dca that I owe you money...you prove it. If you cant provide me with a valid document under a s77/78 request, you aint getting anything.

 

My advice...ignore their request.

 

ims

 

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You don't have to send them anything.

 

You have made your CCA request, they have a timescale within which to fulfill it.

 

If they don't, send them the Account In Dispute letter --> http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?436-Failiure-to-provide-a-copy-of-the-agreement-within-the-prescribed-timescale

then ignore them

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Hi

 

Thanks to the help I got on CAG a couple of years ago I sent Capquest a CCA request with postal order re a Next catalogue account.

 

That was 1st June 2011.

 

They sent two letters asking me to provide them with any info I could, which I didn't do,

and I sent a letter on 18th June 2011 saying they have failed to comply with my request.

 

they sent a letter on 29th June saying the account was on hold while they waited to hear from Next.

 

The next I heard from them was in November 2011,

the usual money demand letters with no mention of CCA.

 

The latest now is that Past Due have started to send letters saying Capquest have appointed them to recover the money.

 

What is my next step?

 

I have drafted a letter to Past Due saying the account is in serious dispute and to hand it back to Capquest (as per a letter template on CAG).

 

Do I wait and see what happens or do I contact Capquest?

 

One last thing,

 

I read on here this evening that since 2007 CCAs do not have to be signed

so does that mean in theory a DCA can produce a fake CCA?

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merged with your old thread for history.

 

they can wave their willys all they like

 

no cca - no pay

 

PDC are lowlife lot anyway.

 

have you all the statements?

 

ever looked at PENALTY [£12] charges?

 

bet there are loads.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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PO Box 550, Manchester M5 is NOT an address for Capquest. I have received several letters addressed to a former occupant of my home, with the "CDR, PO Box 550" return address. I contacted Capquest by phone after reading this thread, but they confirmed that this return address is NOT related to Capquest.

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CDR, PO Box 550

is capquest!!

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I contacted Capquest by phone after reading this thread, but they confirmed that this return address is NOT related to Capquest.

 

I wonder why they put it on their envelopes then?

Perhaps your letters are from DVSL who use the same PO. box. Oh wait a minute, they're capquest in disguise.

Illegitimi non carborundum

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:lol:

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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