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I have edited your posts to remove the account number.

 

I just rang that number and they do indeed answer the phone as Marshall Hoares but fail to mention the 'bailiffs' bit.

Within 2 minutes of the call my phone was ringing from a withheld number, I answered and guess who it was?

 

Marshall Hoares. This time they did use the 'Bailiffs' in their opening speel. Can I confirm my DOB and postcode. SO they got told in no uncertain terms to slide back up their own aristoltle

 

If you have reported to all and sundery then just ignore them for the time being and wait and see what the outcome of your complaints is.

These kind of outfits never respond imformatively to any correspondence, so your wasting your time writing.

 

Their only power is your fear, so fear not and play them at their own stupid game. These kind of letters are just churned out on the company threat o gram machine, there is never any human interaction,, hence no mention of YOUR correspondences

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ops sorry i just copy and pasted it from my email i forgot to remove that bit.

 

yeah i think i will give oft another call tomorrow.

 

just after i posted this comment i went down to get the post and sure enoughe there was a letter from 'marshall hoares bailiffs'

 

i was going to just thow it in the bin untill i noticed that the letter had THREE diffrent address for them!

the first address it at the top of the letter

A1 sheffield road

Southborughe

tumbride wells

Kent

tn4 0pd

 

the 2nd address is right at the bottom in very small wrighting

 

65 New cAVENDISH STREET

lONDON

W1G 7LS

 

AND THE 3RD IS THE MOST INTERSTING ONE

 

on the back of the evelope it says

 

' if unable to deliver please repost to

 

Po box 1933

Radstock

Ba3 4yf

 

now i done a bit of digging and the first address seems to have no connections to this company what so ever

 

the 2nd one is the one that mh,tf and ndr are all regosteerd to

 

and the 3rd comes up with a diffrent company owneing that po box called POLYTYPOS LTD

 

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The first address is Northern Debt Recovery Limited

 

Licence Number:0631166

Licence Status:Current

 

Current Applicant / Licensee:

 

Business NameCompany Registration NumberNorthern Debt Recovery Limited6956396

 

Licence Notes:

 

EvtStageOpen DateNotes1Requirements Imposed27/10/2010

 

Categories:

 

Consumer credit Credit brokerage Debt collecting

 

Right To Canvass Off Trade Premises:No

 

 

Trading Name(s) (Current):

 

http://Www.Fairyfunds.Co.Uk

 

Trading Name(s) (Historic):

 

Fairy Funds Www,fairyfunds.Com

 

Issued Date: 04-Nov-2010

Date Maintenance Payment Due: 03-Nov-2015

 

 

Legal Formation:

 

Body Corporate (incorporated inside UK)

 

Current Individuals that run the organisation:

 

NamePositionJonathan Weinstock Oliver Larholt

 

Nature of Business:

 

Debt Collection

 

Current Address(es):

 

Address TypeAddressPrincipal Place Of Business1A, Sheffield Road, Southborough, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, TN4 0PDRegistered Office1A, Sheffield Road, Southborough, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, TN4 0PD, UK

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I think we have upset them they have started ringing me and making silent phonecalls.Never mind, talking to the police this morning.I have tracked down Daniel Walters the solicitor fronting Toothfairys activities.He is not returning my calls.Lets hope the police have more luck.I lef a message 65 New cavendish street is the address of Harris and trotter solicitors.

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I think we have upset them they have started ringing me and making silent phonecalls.Never mind, talking to the police this morning.I have tracked down Daniel Walters the solicitor fronting Toothfairys activities.He is not returning my calls.Lets hope the police have more luck.I lef a message 65 New cavendish street is the address of Harris and trotter solicitors.

 

Hi HANLEY

 

 

Although Daniel Walters is listed as a partner in Harris and Trotter they are advertising as Music and Media Accountants NOT Solicitors

 

To avoid any possible problems/come backs please make sure you have your facts right before making any allegations

 

R

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Marshall Hoares Bailiffs

Telephone: 0843 381 1111

 

Are a preverbiale pain in the arse. Since I rang that number yesterday to check who they answered the phone as, I have been receiving calls every 30 mins from a withheld number, when you answer nobody speaks. It has to be them as to much of a conincidence. I wish they would speak as I am interested to know what their opening spill will be as I have no association with them at all

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hi guys after getting a email from mh bailliffs i sent toothfairy a email saying i want proff that marshall hoars own my debt and the email i got back was this

 

 

Dear James,

We have been informed by Marshall Hoares Bailiffs that you require proof that the debt is now owned by them.

We have sent you letters previously in the post confirming this but we can confirm that your debt is no longer owned by ourselves and is now legally owned by Marshal Hoares Bailiffs.

This email is now our evidence that you have been notified of the transfer of ownership of the debt.

Thanks

Collections Team

Toothfairy Finance(43)

t: 08000 882 222

 Please consider the environment before you print this email.

___________________________________________________________________

NOTICE

The views and opinions expressed in this email may not reflect the views and opinions of any member of Toothfairy Finance Ltd.The information contained in this message is confidential and may also be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee named above. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), please notify the originator immediately by return message and destroy the original message. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving our network. However, we do not guarantee the security of this message and will not be responsible for any damages arising as a result of any virus being passed on or arising from any alteration of this message by a third party. We may monitor emails sent to and from

 

 

 

can a email really be proff that they have singed over the debt to marshall hoares?

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ok i dont know what to think! after getting that email i just recived 1 email from toothfairy and 1 from northen debt recovery both saying i owe them the money

 

 

Dear Mr Griffiths,

 

You agreed to automatic payments to settle your ToothFairy Pay Day Loan.

 

You are aware that these payments are necessary to avoid further charges, recovery and legal action.

 

You were committed to pay GBP 432 by 04.06.2011.

 

The following payment of GBP 432 in relation to your loan ToothFairy Pay Day Loan - Ref XXXXXhas been DECLINED by your bank today.

 

Your transaction reference is: XXXXXX

Error Code: DECLINED -

This may appear on your statement as a transaction processed by: tf-f or London Treasury Services

 

Your outstanding balance is GBP 1284.

 

By failing to honour this agreement all charges will immediately become due. Recovery Agents will be sent to all addresses we have on file for you in order to obtain payment. Shou ld this also prove unsuccessful we will be liaising with solicitors who will obtain a County Court Judgement against you. Once this is secured we will return with a Warrant of Execution from the County Court and certified Court Bailiffs to seize goods at 9 times the value of what you owe.

 

It is essential that you honour your commmitment .

 

You should pay GBP 432 by:

 

 

OR

 

2. making payment to:

Barclays Bank

Account Number: 93462382

Sort code: 20-50-94

Reference: Use your mobile number (***********) as a reference so we can match it correctly

 

Please ensure that these funds reach us by the end of business.

 

Note: We reserve the right to contiune to automatically debit your account for the agreed scheduled amount OR the full amount if payment is not received.

 

If you have already repaid and this is not reflected in the above statement please contact us so we can investigate this further and correct your file.

 

Thanks

 

and on a second note i did NOT agree to making any payment! i have not got the money so how could a agree to it??? also i have kept all coms to email only so i have proof that i did not agree to making any payment to selttel the accont i owe.

 

he is the email i got from northen debt

Notice: All correspondence relating to your Toothfairy Loan ref: XXXXX taken out on 08.03.11 19:09 should be referred through Northern Debt Recovery.

 

You have failed to honour the payment plan you agreed to so this file has been fast-tracked for recovery through the courts and by recovery agents.

 

You should contact Northern Debt Recovery within 24 hours days on 0843 381 0843or we will be left no option but to send our Recovery Agents to all addresses we have on file for you in order to obtain payment. This will incur additional fees.

 

We will shortly be liaising with solicitors to obtain a County Court Judgement against you. Once this is secured we will return with a Warrant of Execution from the County Court and certified Court Bailiffs to seiz e goods up to 9 times the value of what you owe.

 

Legal and Recovery fees have been added to your file. Below is a breakdown of what you owe

 

Loan and Interest £904

Missed Payment Fee 1 (day 29) 03.07.11 10

Missed Payment Fee 2 (day 43) 17.07.11 10

NDR Accept Case File 30.07.11 200

Solicitors - Instructed 30.07.11 150

Missed Payment Fee 3 (day 56) 30.07.11 10

 

Repayments todate £0

Total £1284

 

These fees may be reduced if contact is made immediately.

 

WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU CALL US IMMEDIATELY ON 0843 381 0843. We can in certain circumstances put you on a more affordable payment plan but this requires your cooperation.

 

WARNING: This debt will only increase in size the longer you ignore it as interest , Court fees and Bailiff fees continue to accrue.

 

If this debt has already been settled please contact us immediately so we can corr ect your file.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

DEBT MANAGER - Greg Campbell

NORTHERN DEBT RECOVERY

0843 381 0843

 

NOTICE: The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only.

 

i cant make heads or tails of this any more. i feel like i have to call them ( but i dont want to) just to see what the hell is going on.

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Get their emails to the OFT and Trading Standards, they are playing games with you and are being very intimidatory.

 

Office of Fair Trading - http://www.oft.gov.uk

Trading Standards - http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk

 

Don't forget to tell the OFT that they have already done an investigation on Toothfairy Finance and clearly the company are still misusing the law to suit them.

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thanks sillygirl1

 

i have called oft about a week ago and havent heard anything back there seems to be nothing more i can do and yet this company is making me a wreck.

 

i cant sleep anymore, i dont want to go out and i will be honest i feel like just ending it!

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I've deleted the original message due to formatting being up the creek . . . . will try againR

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oh dear i feel like telling them to take me to court and then i can show the judge all the harrassing and bullying emails and show that this company should not be aloud to trade any more!! i dont want anyone to have to put up with this.

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Morning again Griff . . That's more like it . . . not easy I know but don't let them bully you into submission . . . what they say re the CCJ is done to scare you and is not right . . . first they must go to Court and win the CCJ (Can be defended) . . . if they win the Judge sets the repayments . . . IF you default on that they then have to return to Court and get further action authorised . . . it's not a given thing as they put it . . . You have more power in this than they like and all they keep doing is making things easier for you by digging the hole deeper . . . the help and support is still here so have a cuppa and get the next part of your battle plan moving as more complaints are in order . . . sorry for the way I've had to write this . . . I can't format paragraphs for some reason . . . Regards . . . R

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You've already made complaints so send that very threatening/misleading email in and escalate things . . . really push the harassment side . . . maybe take a copy to your local Police and report it on the grounds that you now fear that someone will turn up at your door, ask for a ref number . . . they want you to think that it's all over and they've won . . . WRONG . . . as I see it you've got this under control so just keep as calm as you can and keep pushing . . . Regards . . . R

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nice cup of tea.

 

right at the moment i have just been leeting these people dig a whole for themselfs.

but as i said before i just think this is wrong and they shouldnt even be able to do bussiness! i want to take action and take these people off the streets.

well maybe i should just sort myself out before i try taking them down haha.

ok right i am going to list all the laws of witch i feel they have broke if any one feels that i am wrong about any of the points i list please let me know as if i am currect i will be driving to the local trading standerds office and handing them all my findings.

 

.levy chaarges that are disprortionate to the main debt and which do not reflect the actual and necessary cost of recovering the debt owed to it.

 

:Pressure debtors who have defluted on the agreement to pay unreasonably large instalments when they are unable to do so

 

:make any misleading representations as to the action it might take or might be taking to recover the debt.

 

 

there are more i belive but they are on the other page so i cant go and look.

 

what do you think?

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I have seen something re charges that's along the lines you've put but can't remember where . . . Pressurising debtors to pay is under section 2 of the OFT Guidelines (Physical/Phsycological Harassment) . . . Misleading debtors I covered on the first page . . . Nothing's going to happen over the weekend so take your time over getting things ready BUT remember to also take time for yourself . . . R

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Like I have said before Marshall Hoares Bailiffs are NOT bailiffs. They are debt collectors. All bailiffs have to be certified by the HM Courts Service & must not be associated with a or in the business of buying debts. NO WAY can they take goods up to 9 times the value of the debt on your doorstep WITHOUT a court order

 

Marshall Hoares Bailiffs, NorthernDebtRecovery & Toothfairy Finance are all one entity.

 

Write them a letter inviting them to take you to court. I really doubt this shower will even bother to try, as they know if you went to court with the notification of non-compliance from the OFT on them, showed how they have treated you & how they have intimidated & harassed you, the court will sanction them so hard they wouldn't know what hit them. This is why they use their feign Bailiff company, to scare people.

 

Bailiffs can not get involved until a court order has been obtained, not been fulfilled by you & a distress warrant aka warrant of execution has been issued by the courts. All the bailiffs that then get assigned to this work are Certified by the HM Court service, will always carry a copy of this certificate with them & will also always carry a copy of any court papers. ALL OF THIS HAS TO GO TO COURT BEFORE A BAILIFF WILL EVEN GET A SNIFF OF THE CASE!

 

http://www.ensas.org.uk/membersearch.asp

http://www.acea.org.uk/membership

 

They are not registered to either of these & making complaints to any of these bodies should have these morons smited off the face of this planet!

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Just found this post after another Threatening text message/private call from these guys yesterday and today.

 

They have been harassing me for months and months under various names and I have had enough. :-x

 

Yesterday I wrote to my local trading standards to complain about Toothfairy not having the correct Cosumer Licence when they claim I took out their loan. My city council has a loan shark department who are investigating. I've told them ToothFairy/MH Bailifs and N are all the same company even though they claim my Loan was with ToothFairy.

 

But my biggest complaint is the way they threaten me and my family. I too have received letters, phone calls but even more aweful is the "countdown text messages". They basically say you have 3 days to contact us or a bailiff will be round..then the next day 2 days etc.

 

Unfortunately for them my smart phone has saved every single message they have sent me (56 various threats). I've just printed them all out back to back and I'm certain a court would interpret this campaign as harassment. That is exactly how I interpret them and my family.

 

I have now told them I will only deal via writing and if they call me again I will Call the Police immediately. And I am so upset about their actions that I promise I will call my local police station to report an harassment complaint against whoever is on the end of the telephone. I'll let everyone know if I have to dial them and also how I get on with Trading Standards and the ICO.

:x

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I did contact the police they were worse than useless, I received 80 silent phonecalls in one week.I have passed emails onto OFt, they say 10 days before I theyreply.I think I have another 3 days.I was thinking of taking them to court myself.I am contacting My areas chief constable plus I have connections on the National press, I would like to know how "Nuisence calls are not harrassment, they probably said 100 text messages were not harrassment to that poor essex mum who was shot dead.I was angry Toothfairys address was bogus, I contacted their solicitors and they lied and refused to take my calls, I am just straight up angry, the difference with me though I may go to 65 New street in London and pay a personal visit to Harris & trotter,, not legal but I might feel better.But I will post friday after I have had converation with Chief constable,its ironic events in the press with Police doing nothing.

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I did contact the police they were worse than useless, I received 80 silent phonecalls in one week.I have passed emails onto OFt, they say 10 days before I theyreply.I think I have another 3 days.I was thinking of taking them to court myself.I am contacting My areas chief constable plus I have connections on the National press, I would like to know how "Nuisence calls are not harrassment, they probably said 100 text messages were not harrassment to that poor essex mum who was shot dead.I was angry Toothfairys address was bogus, I contacted their solicitors and they lied and refused to take my calls, I am just straight up angry, the difference with me though I may go to 65 New street in London and pay a personal visit to Harris & trotter,, not legal but I might feel better.But I will post friday after I have had converation with Chief constable,its ironic events in the press with Police doing nothing.

 

 

Morning HANLEY

 

I refer you back to my post 32

 

Google results for Harris and Trotter show them to be accountants NOT solicitors so you need to be sure beyond any doubt that what you are posting in this thread is 100% correct and even more watertight than a ducks bum

 

If you do pay them a visit and/or start making allegations that aren't correct apart from making a fool of yourself you could well drop the CAG right in the soft and smelly stuff

 

I can understand your annoyance/frustration but on behalf of everyone that uses this excellent site I ask that you check,recheck and then check some more before going off half cocked

 

Regards

 

R

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