andrew hart/hartinvestments/paydayoverdraft.com/Wage Payments and Payday Loans Ltd - claimform - PDL i know nothing about - scam? **Claim Discontinued**

[ScarletPimpernel]

I think this latest email is a mistake. Looks like it is system generated. Perhaps they are in the process of dealing with the loan account on their records and the email was generated in error.

 

The email is dated 30 jan 2011 and the text talks about payment being due today i.e. 30 jan 2011.

 

As this matter has been the subject of previous correspondence and a withdrawn court claim, I would tend to either ignore it or send it back with a note saying that the email has been sent in error.

 

I think this would be entirely in line with the level of competence demonstrated to date by Mr H. If he's operating a financial service, he ought to ensure that his system is up to the job. It is further evidence of his unfitness to hold a consumer credit licence.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

After what we have seen on CAG. about this company and the MD/owner,account manager??

I am surprised he ever got a licence:!:

[sillygirl1]

Yes, I agree, that the email to the police and say considering the case is meant to be closed it seems that the person still has access to your funds. I would then put in a complaint to Paypal citing fraud.

[Yellow160]

Hey ads, have you heard anything more on this?

[ads_uk]

Nothing.

[ads_uk]

New Email from Mr H:

Mr XX,

 

The case has now been closed.

 

 

There are still unanswered questions that need to be answered in relation to the strange circumstances that you state happened in regards to the paypal payment that had to be authorised only by you.

 

 

Can you please respond with the information that we require from previous emails to your good self and why you chose to disclose the information and deny ever having the loan when you had made two separate payments and had signed two loan agreements with us.

 

 

 

Andrew Hart

Account Manager

 

[sillygirl1]

What planet is he on? That needs to go to the Police pronto, he has after all involved them so you must now state that the harrassment is continuing.

 

Maybe English is not his first language?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

That is unbelievable, I have stated my doubts about the persona we see

as Andrew Hart, that linguist manner is very reminiscent of West Africa, or Kenyan Asian.

[sillygirl1]

Hence my comment.....

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

This get more unusual at every turn, I suspect he is a front man and is not

the author of these e -mails. IMHO.

[DonkeyB]

Contact the OFT pronto. You have still had no notice of discontinuation, but even if the case has been discontinued, he has no right or reason to contact you further. The man is a plank.

 

Make that plankton.

[ads_uk]

How do I go about recovering my costs - I started back to work this week so no longer entitled to assistance..

DO I need to do a fresh claim with the OFT or contact the woman at my local TS first?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

I think you need to confirm the discontinuation firs.

[ads_uk]

How do I get that?

 

The subject of his email said: "notice of discontinuance has been served"

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Do you trust him that it's right ads,pers I would like to hear it from the court.

Brig.

[ads_uk]

As mentioned previously Court has said it is closed and they will not send anything to confirm this..

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Ok fine, what exactly are you wanting to claim back as costs.

You need to to make a schedule of costs listed and defined by category and type.

phone calls, postage etc.

Time

Fees if any.

Loss of earnings

have you worked anything out.

As the claim is discontinued I believe you will have to

make a claim yourself which of course ''costs''

 

I may be wrong on that but I am sure I' ll be advised.

[stevo7790]

I'd tell him to **** off, sorry but if someone was chomping at me that much about something I had nothing to do with id tell him where to go, tell him no more silly little games and to await bill for wasted costs!

[MrShed]

Subbing.

[Tootles1971]

New Email from Mr H:

 

Ok so if he has 2 signed agreements why did he not produce these months ago when you first asked for proof, and why did he continue to chase a "debt" that had already been paid. As someone else has said, this all needs to be passed to the police and you need to make a counter accusation of harassment against him. If you are supposed not to contact him due to the accusation of harrassment then I would say don't contact him! What a wally this person is (insert appropriate word here !!)

[rdm2006]

New Email from Mr H.:

 

Mr XX,

 

The case has now been closed.

 

 

There are still unanswered questions that need to be answered in relation to the strange circumstances that you state happened in regards to the paypal payment that had to be authorised only by you.

 

 

Can you please respond with the information that we require from previous emails to your good self and why you chose to disclose the information and deny ever having the loan when you had made two separate payments and had signed two loan agreements with us.

 

 

 

Andrew Hart

Account Manager

 

 

If the case is closed then there is nothing to answer, however, you have already had answers to these questions but chose to ignore them............

[unclebulgaria67]

ADS

 

Up to you. But now you have had the email advising it has been discontinued, should you just leave this now ? Yes you could pursue this for costs, but are you likely to be satisfied at the end of the process to a level, where you feel that your continued perseverance has been beneficial to you in all respects ?

 

Mr Hart obviously believes that because paypal was used, that you would have been the only one who had access to this account. It is not normal for several unrelated people to have access to such an account. Remember this cuts both ways. Whilst I have no sympathy for Mr Hart and some of the ways he conducts his business are different (some may say unusual) as witnessed by emails in this thread, I can understand it from his point. It appears that administrative mistakes have been made and this has led to an embarassing situation with an aborted court claim. Perhaps in these circumstances, it would be better for Mr Hart to just close the matter at this point, not to dig a deeper hole and to just move on. If he continues to send emails, he is just inviting ads to continue with his complaint both legally and through the OFT.

[DonkeyB]

Ads, have you contacted the police yet about the possible fraud? If you don’t do this, forget everything else, cos you won’t have a leg to stand on.

[unclebulgaria67]

Ads, have you contacted the police yet about the possible fraud? If you don’t do this, forget everything else, cos you won’t have a leg to stand on.

 

Agree. What ever the reasons that ads might have for not contacting the Police (dropping a friend in it), they will have extreme difficulty in pursuing this any further if they did not.

[knigget]

I still say Mr Hart should be reported as a vexatious litigant and stopped from taking people to court for such things.. I wonder how many others this has happened to and they have just paid him because they were scared and didn't know where to turn..Anyone taking anyone to court for any reason should be made to ensure they have all the facts and have exhausted all lines of enquiry before proceeding.

 

ads_uk Really does need to contact the Police about this situation just to cover his Own back, it could be construed as assisting or aiding and abbetting a fraud if he doesn't.. We cannot expect anyone to abide by the law/rules and regs, if we don't ourselves eh?..

Great work guys helping ads through this.. You have helped to restore my faith in humanity...