PPC, No Letters from PCS but one from CCS Collect Debt Collectors

[StickItToTheMan]

Ok guys and gals,

 

I have a bit of a dilemma. I recevied a PCN on the 9th July and recevied no correspondence from Parking Control Services (PCS), no letters in the post, nothing. The only information I had was the ticket on my car, which is not a 100% guarantee that someone would receive the notice, as some "little kid" could have removed it for a laugh, thus meaning I would not have any idea of this "charge". Plus, I'm not saying I am the driver of the car - who I guess would be the one responsible but I'm right in saying I dont have to disclose this information to PCS anyway?

 

I then received a letter from CCS Collect Debt Collectors on the 12th Aug but the letter was dated 5th August. The letter stated that I had to make a payment to them in the next 7 days or they threaten me with County Court action as well court costs and legal fees.

 

What should I do? I know the best advice with these has always been to ignore the letters Parking Control Services and similar PPC send, but they have put this straight through to a debt collector.

 

Your help is much appreciated.

[DBC]

Just ignore. They are just empty threats. One debt collection company keeps sending out letters saying that they will be "at a your house within 72 hours hours" and they never turn up.

[dx100uk]

ignore!!!

 

you did not receive a PCN

 

you received an INVOICE made to look like one

 

its a [problem] ignore everything

and do some reading in this forum.

 

dx

[StickItToTheMan]

Thanks,

 

I am going to do some reading, as I did plenty when I first got the charge to find out thankfully it isn't enforceable, but I half knew it anyway from other people saying about them that I know. However, I just thought I'd create a thread to see if anyone had any advice as well, as I've not read anything where people haven't recevied letters from the PPC and gotten a letter straight from the Debt Collectors. Can you provide a link to a similar scenario if there is one like my case and I'll happily read through that one as well.

 

Thing is I dont want to go through the process of sorting out a debt in dispute again which turned in to a ccj before which I have only just gotten rid of after 6 years of being on my credit history. That was for a similar amount for a debt that was with a catalogue company saying they never received the goods back, but I was young and naive then, ignored most of the correspondence and actually did have a CCJ for £150 against my name for 6 years before it was automatically taken off and now my credit score is finally good again!

 

I have received nothing since from CCS as more than 7 days have passed, so its safe to ignore and nothing will be added to my credit file/history as a default debt or anything like that? I know as you say its an invoice, so technically there is no actual credit agreement signed by me, but I cant be bothered to go through the hassle of sorting it all, especially if it went to court. Although of course I would go to court to defend myself if it went that far.

[StickItToTheMan]

Also how can you tell I did not receive a PCN but an invoice?

[DBC]

The only way it will affect your credit record is if the case goes to court (very unlikely) you lose (very, very unlikely) and you refuse to pay whatever the judge orders. As you rightly say there is no "debt", so they cannot pursue you for that.

[dx100uk]

Also how can you tell I did not receive a PCN but an invoice?

 

because it does not say:

Penalty Charge Notice [which are the only ones you SHOULD pay]

 

if you look carefully it will say different or more words.........

 

by LAW private parking companies cannot use the words:

Penalty Charge Notice.

 

its an invoice !!

 

dx

 

 

 

 

 

dx

[StickItToTheMan]

Hi,

 

Sorry when I said PCN I meant Parking Charge Notice not Penalty Charge Notice. I know if it has the words Fine or Penalty then it is the sort you should pay, I thought maybe I was missing something in relation to Parking Control Services. Sorry for the mix up and I do appreciate the help. Also the "Invoice" says that it will increase to £150 after non-payment within 7 days - surely before it goes to a debt collection agency asking for £200, they would also have to write to me to inform me of their ticket/invoice, as in case the ticket was taken off the car and the owner/driver was unaware of it?

 

After the original posting, I have also received a letter from the property management company of my estate saying they have suspended the services of Parking Control Services for a limited time, as they have had too many complaints over where tenants should and shouldn't park. They want to address this both with the residents and Parking Control Services and after this, will only be patrolling "the courtyards blocked paving areas of the development", which I was not parked on when issued with said unenforceable "invoice".

[dx100uk]

hehe

 

50% got rid of them then!!

just pass the word around not to pay them!

 

if you do some reading about these co's here, you'll soon get the MO.

 

 

dx

[wheelergeezer]

Parking Charge Notice:

 

According to Wikipedia, the Oxford English Dictionary and Noel Edmunds houskeepr, parking charge notice means : Tosser who must not get paid.

 

It is a [problem]. DO NOT PAY, DO NOT REPLY, DO NOT PHONE.

 

Nerxt scamogram will be from an alleged solicitor, which is in reality the same knuckle scraping f***wit using another name.

[dx100uk]

no its not..

 

 

its the secretary putting a diff letterhead in the DCA's printer.........

 

dx

[letshelp]

you are taking this far too seriously and getting hung up on the use of debt collectors.

You do realise a debt coll;ector has no powers whatsoever except to send letters , some in scary red ink?

regards