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Careful, Fred!

 

Sorry, I'm just in one of those daft moods tonight. I feel quite relaxed about the whole thing. I think I'll relax a bit more know with a nice glass of red.

 

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by angry cat

Conservative

Seats 306

Gain 100

Loss 3

 

Labour

Seats 258

Gain 3

Loss 94

 

Say's it all methinks!

 

Yep, it says clearly that you don't seem to understand how the election system works in the UK.

 

Tip: It doesn't work on the principle that the person with the most votes wins. :rolleyes:

 

You can roll your eyes as much as you like Booky!

 

[Emphasis]:

Conservative Gain: 100

Labour Loss: 94.

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Sorry, I'm just in one of those daft moods tonight. I feel quite relaxed about the whole thing. I think I'll relax a bit more know with a nice glass of red.

 

Cheers!

Careful Fred, or BB may tick you off for being able to afford a glass of red!

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You can roll your eyes as much as you like Booky!

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And I will, as long as people keep on spouting these numbers as if they had the slightest meaning in what will create the next government. :-D
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And I will, as long as people keep on spouting these numbers as if they had the slightest meaning in what will create the next government. :-D

 

Well they will have a bearing on what people think of what happens next.

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BOOKIE........F.BASSETT>>>>>>>>>>>

 

 

 

Match made in heaven;)

 

 

Where is Heaven, I hear you ask?

 

It's about 2 and a half miles past cameron street.

 

 

:confused:

 

 

If all else fails, kick them where it hurts and SOD'EM;)

 

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BOOKIE........F.BASSETT>>>>>>>>>>>

 

 

 

Match made in heaven;)

 

 

Where is Heaven, I hear you ask?

 

It's about 2 and a half miles past cameron street.

 

 

:confused:

 

She's too late SOD'EM - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/259050-now-heres-conundrum.html#post2920488

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Well they will have a bearing on what people think of what happens next.

People had a chance to tell the country what they thought... and the result was a hung parliament. It shows that they didn't have enough confidence in ANY of the parties.

 

No-one is going to be happy, that much is clear. If the LD go with the tories, Labour won't be happy and a huge amount of LDs won't be happy either.

 

If they go with Labour, the Tories will be howling that it's not fair that the parties which got the fewer votes get to govern after all.

 

That's what happens when no-one inspires enough confidence for people to get behind them wholeheartedly, I'm afraid. :razz:

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People had a chance to tell the country what they thought... and the result was a hung parliament. It shows that they didn't have enough confidence in ANY of the parties.

 

No-one is going to be happy, that much is clear. If the LD go with the tories, Labour won't be happy and a huge amount of LDs won't be happy either.

 

If they go with Labour, the Tories will be howling that it's not fair that the parties which got the fewer votes get to govern after all.

 

That's what happens when no-one inspires enough confidence for people to get behind them wholeheartedly, I'm afraid. :razz:

 

Precisely.

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Where is Heaven, I hear you ask?

 

 

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That's true but it's also fair to say that Labour has lost an awful lot of support and doesn't deserve to be in office any longer. I know, I know, the Tories didn't win it either. What happens next and what's been happening since Friday is what will happen all of the time under PR, so we'd better get used to it. No more stable Government for the UK. Still, at least Brown's going so we should all be grateful for small mercies.

 

Have I missed a stable government? Darnit! I must've been napping :razz: :razz:

 

I feel this is more stable than what we've suffered under 1 party leading! The people who are panicking are the politicians, desperate to please the public as they know another election is not going to be a million miles away, and trying to find common ground with each other rather than just saying the opposite to unite each parties ideals fairly.

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Looks like Mandy is involved with the Lib/Lab talks...god help us all!

 

Go on, now say that you all trust (Lord) Mandy?

 

roll eyes...

 

Nope. If any of us had done what Mandelson had done in fiddling his mortgage application we would have been in serious trouble. Another non-elected politician pulling the strings, together with Campbell.

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Of course, there is another angle to this - the one that so-called 'progressive' people hate and that would be for the English to say 'sod it, we elected conservatives to represent England, the Welsh, Scots and Irish all have their own assemblies, so let us have our own Government'.

 

Just a thought.

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Of course, there is another angle to this - the one that so-called 'progressive' people hate and that would be for the English to say 'sod it, we elected conservatives to represent England, the Welsh, Scots and Irish all have their own assemblies, so let us have our own Government'.

 

Just a thought.

 

Hear, Hear!

The people of England have spoken, they want a Conserative Government to represent them not a Labour Gov. that includes a mish mash, which would result in yet another non-elected Labour PM...

 

:

...the Welsh, Scots and Irish all have their own assemblies, so let us have our own Government'.

 

I bid you all goodnight.

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I think Mr Brown's address was dignified. I also think it just goes to shows you have to accept responsibility for what you say in the heat of the moment.

 

That would be a first for Brown then. He's never taken responsibility for anything before - it's always somebody else's fault.

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Quote from the Guardian CIF from John Reid:

 

Asked why a Labour/Lib Dem pact would be bad for the country, Reid told the BBC:

 

I think it's bad for the county because first of all it's inherently unstable, because Labour and the Liberals together still don't have a majority, so we will dependent on trying to bring in the votes of assorted Scots nationalists and the parties in Northern Ireland whose main concern, of course, will be that they should not suffer the cutbacks in public expenditure that the English would. I can't think of anything that is likely to further enrage an electorate [that already thinks] people are cocking a snoop at the electoral results by the two minor parties, as they are, trying to form a government.[/Quote]

 

Nicely put I think, but what the hell, let's see what happens. Somebody will have to deal with Labour's debt crisis. In a way, I'd like to see Labour clear up the mess of their own creation because it's going to be very very hard whoever does it and whoever that is will be very unpopular afterwards.

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