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I know. He's an unelected Prime Minister.

 

Quite incorrect.

 

The UK voting system does not elect individuals to become prime minister.

 

In 2005 the Labour Party had the largest majority in the election and their party leader, Mr Blair, thus became prime minister for a third term.

 

Mr Blair resigned mid-term and Mr Brown became Labour leader unopposed due to so many nominations for him from his party and his only rival backed out.

 

As Labour were also the governing party Mr Brown also became prime minister.

 

Quite legitimate and constitutional and hardly the fault of Mr Brown.

 

He already had a mandate to govern as his party were already in power.

 

John Major did the same thing but the tories rarely mention this fact.

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Quite incorrect.

 

The UK voting system does not elect individuals to become prime minister.

 

In 2005 the Labour Party had the largest majority in the election and their party leader, Mr Blair, thus became prime minister for a third term.

 

Mr Blair resigned mid-term and Mr Brown became Labour leader unopposed due to so many nominations for him from his party and his only rival backed out.

 

As Labour were also the governing party Mr Brown also became prime minister.

 

Quite legitimate and constitutional and hardly the fault of Mr Brown.

 

He already had a mandate to govern as his party were already in power.

 

John Major did the same thing but the tories rarely mention this fact.

 

This is quite true of course but you have to consider why people vote in the way that they do. There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the main factor in Labour winning 3 elections on the trot was Tony Blair. He was very popular. God knows why, the slimy git, but he was. Would Labour have won with Gordon Brown in charge? Well we've just got the answer to that haven't we?

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

I am not European, I am English.

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No, we have just had the answer to whether they would vote for him NOW. You don't know, any more than I do, whether they would have before, and we'll never know. Since he was the Chancellor, I can not help feeling that people must have known that fact when they were voting for Labour en masse at the last 3 elections and it didn't really bother them, quite the contrary. But of course that would mean admitting that Labour were actually voted in because they were doing a good job, something I think you'll never be able to accept. ;-)

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No, we have just had the answer to whether they would vote for him NOW. You don't know, any more than I do, whether they would have before, and we'll never know. Since he was the Chancellor, I can not help feeling that people must have known that fact when they were voting for Labour en masse at the last 3 elections and it didn't really bother them, quite the contrary. But of course that would mean admitting that Labour were actually voted in because they were doing a good job, something I think you'll never be able to accept. ;-)

 

Presumably then, you think the conservatives did a good job in most people's eyes for the 18 years prior to the 13-year disaster we've just been through.

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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How far do you want to go back??? :rolleyes:

 

In case you haven't noticed, it goes in cycles, so we could be doing this for a very long time. :lol:

 

You're right, there's no point in going back now. Let's look forward. To Brown leaving Downing Street.

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Why do you hate Brown so much? As chancellor, he served very well, and as PM he's done his best :confused:

 

As Chancellor he sold our gold at knock-down prices, wrecked the pensions industry and raised taxes through the roof.

 

As Prime Minister he reneged on his promise to hold a referendum on the EU treaty, lied to the enquiry he set up about Iraq and has hardly spoken a truthful word throughout the election campaign.

 

Throughout all of this, he colluded over the illegal invasion of Iraq and to make matters worse, starved our troops of the necessary resources. The man is a disgrace and a national embarrassment - look at the way he signed the EU treaty (the one he promised a referendum over). What a cringe worthy moment that was. On top of that, he still has no intention of addressing the 'West Lothian' question - the democratic imbalance between Scotland and England/Wales.

 

I can't wait to see him go.

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Cameron doesn't lie does he? :confused::rolleyes:

 

He probably does, but so far it's not affected the whole country. Brown's lie over the EU Constitution was the biggest act of political treachery that I can ever remember. For that alone he deserves to go. in my view.

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"At last Gordon Brown decided to throw the towel in and resign. His cabinet colleagues decided it would be a worthy gesture to name a railway locomotive after him.

 

So a senior `Sir Humphrey´ went from Whitehall to the National Railway Museum at York, to investigate the possibilities.

 

"We have a number of locomotives at the NRM without names," a specially sought NRM consultant told the top civil servant. "Mostly freight locomotives though."

 

"Oh dear, that’s not very fitting for a prime minister," said Sir Humphrey. "How about that big green one, over there ?" he said, pointing to no.4472.

 

"That’s already got a name" said the consultant. "It’s called `Flying Scotsman´."

 

"Oh. Couldn’t it be renamed ?" asked Sir Humphrey. "This is a national museum after all, funded by the taxpayer."

 

"I suppose it might be considered," said the NRM consultant. "After all the LNER renamed a number of their locomotives after directors of the company, and even renamed one of them Dwight D Eisenhower."

 

"That’s excellent" said Sir Humphrey, "So that’s settled then .. let’s look at renaming 4472. But how much will it cost ? We can’t spend too much, given the expenses scandal !"

 

Well, said the consultant, "We could always just paint out the `F´

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

I am not European, I am English.

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"At last Gordon Brown decided to throw the towel in and resign. His cabinet colleagues decided it would be a worthy gesture to name a railway locomotive after him.

 

So a senior `Sir Humphrey´ went from Whitehall to the National Railway Museum at York, to investigate the possibilities.

 

"We have a number of locomotives at the NRM without names," a specially sought NRM consultant told the top civil servant. "Mostly freight locomotives though."

 

"Oh dear, that’s not very fitting for a prime minister," said Sir Humphrey. "How about that big green one, over there ?" he said, pointing to no.4472.

 

"That’s already got a name" said the consultant. "It’s called `Flying Scotsman´."

 

"Oh. Couldn’t it be renamed ?" asked Sir Humphrey. "This is a national museum after all, funded by the taxpayer."

 

"I suppose it might be considered," said the NRM consultant. "After all the LNER renamed a number of their locomotives after directors of the company, and even renamed one of them Dwight D Eisenhower."

 

"That’s excellent" said Sir Humphrey, "So that’s settled then .. let’s look at renaming 4472. But how much will it cost ? We can’t spend too much, given the expenses scandal !"

 

Well, said the consultant, "We could always just paint out the `F´

 

:lol:

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Exactly.

 

The helicopters weren't there!

Well, we know why not.

 

And that is not all...

 

DISGRACEFUL & SHOCKING!!!

 

Yes. And then he lied about it to the enquiry he set up.

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

I am not European, I am English.

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