Is this correct what Loyds TSB have told me?

[Helenatroy]

They don't have a valid CCA although they've written to me stating

that they're still currently trying to locate a a signed copy of my credit agreement with them, but they say :

 

We can assure you, however, that before we opened your credit card account, we would have required sight of a signed agreement. If you take this matter further, we are confident in our ability to be able to prove this.

In addition, we would point out that your credit card account has been in existence for some time and you have drawn down and repaid debt on multiple occasions, thereby acknowledging that your agreement is valid and enforceable.

 

 

The account was opened around 1996, and hasn't been used since around 2000, and I have paid reduced amounts via debt management from 2000 until around 2007.

It's been back and forth between AIC, Debt Managers and Apex.

 

Thank you

HT

[ODC]

Send them this

 

Dear Cretins

 

I suggest you read the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and pay particular attention to S 127. You are already in default of my Legal Request under S 77/78 of the same act.

 

Im sur I do not need to quote case law to you to prove you are talking errant nonsense

 

yours etc

[cerberusalert]

They really don't understand do they the poor little mites, the argument isn't whether a debt exists or has existed the crux of the matter is whether it is legally enforceable, which in this case it isn't because they cannot produce a CCA.

[Helenatroy]

Just as I thought.

Many thanks fellow CAGGERS

 

HT

[diskmandave]

Lloyds TSB only keep agreements for six years.

 

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w289/diskmandave/BLS-NoAgreement.jpg

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/68852-ltsb-no-agreement-game.html

 

They put up quite a fight though...

Edited October 5, 2009 by diskmandave

[babybear39]

Be wary if their pet solicitors, ****

[Fred Bassett]

I'm having a similar battle with Moorcroft over Lloyds, so I'll be interested in what happens here. I've also had the 'Lloyds don't keep paperwork older than 6 years' argument, so I just wrote and thanked Moorcroft for confirming that Lloyds don't have a true copy of the properly-executed agreement.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

[Massamum]

I'm having a similar battle with Moorcroft over Lloyds, so I'll be interested in what happens here. I've also had the 'Lloyds don't keep paperwork older than 6 years' argument, so I just wrote and thanked Moorcroft for confirming that Lloyds don't have a true copy of the properly-executed agreement.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

 

they found my agreement from 1998 here

[Fred Bassett]

they found my agreement from 1998 here

 

They found mine too, it's just that it's a great big pile of dung.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

[Enron]

Lloyds TSB only keep agreements for six years.

 

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w289/diskmandave/BLS-NoAgreement.jpg

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/68852-ltsb-no-agreement-game.html

 

They put up quite a fight though...

 

And mine from 1992, so they certainly keep them for longer than 6 years.

 

I can however shed some light as it looks as though its been retrieved from microfiche - in my instance the executed agreement was illegible.

[Helenatroy]

They really don't understand do they the poor little mites, the argument isn't whether a debt exists or has existed the crux of the matter is whether it is legally enforceable, which in this case it isn't because they cannot produce a CCA.

 

Send them this

 

Dear Cretins

 

I suggest you read the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and pay particular attention to S 127. You are already in default of my Legal Request under S 77/78 of the same act.

 

Im sur I do not need to quote case law to you to prove you are talking errant nonsense

 

yours etc

 

Would it be possible for you to point me in the direction of a suitable template that I can reply to them with?

 

Thanks again

HT

[Undercover-Elsa]

Hi HT

You could use this one intitially,to start the ball rolling:

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/86-debt-collectors/571-failiure-to-provide-a-copy-of-the-agreement-within-the-prescribed-timescale

 

Elsa x