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    • Please see my witness statement below.  Please let me know what modifications I need to apply.  I haven't included anything related to "administrative charge while paying by credit or debit card" as I wasn't sure if I should include since sign says "it may apply"   Background  1.1 Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of November 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.    Contract  2.1 No Locus Standi, I do not believe a contract exists with the landowner that gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” From PoFA (Protection of Freedoms Act) 2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-  (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or  (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44  For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.    Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed  3.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.  3.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.  3.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.  3.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.    Unfair PCN  4.1         As stipulated in Exhibit 1 (Pages 7-13) sent by DCB Legal following the defendant’s CPR request the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows £60.00 parking charge notice and will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue. The defendant puts it to the claimant a request for strict proof when the signage changed to show £100.00 parking charge as the evidence provided by DCB Legal stipulated £60.00 parking charge was indeed the parking charge at the time defendant parked and included in Exhibit 1   4.3        The Claimant did not respect PAPLOC   4.4        It is also unfair to delay litigation for so long and claim nearly four years' interest.    No Keeper Liability  5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.  5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.    5.3        The claimant did not mention parking period instead only mentioned time 20:25 which is not sufficient to qualify as a parking period.   Protection of Freedoms Act 2012  The notice must -  (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;      No Breach of Contract  6.1      No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY.  6.2        The wording “Electric Bay Abuse” is not listed on their signs nor there is any mention on the contract of any electric charging points at all let alone who can park there or use them.    Double Recovery  7.1        As well as the original £100 parking charge and £50 allowed court/legal costs, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  7.2        PoFA Schedule 4, paragraph 4(5) states that “the maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper is the amount specified in the notice to keeper”. Which in this case is £100.  7.3        The Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 is also quite clear that the maximum amount recoverable is £100.  Government ministers and government web pages explaining the Act refer to extra charges as "a rip off".  7.4        Unless the Claimant can clearly demonstrate how these alleged additional costs have been incurred this would appear to be an attempt at double recovery.  7.5        Previous parking charge cases have found that the parking charge itself is at a level to include the costs of recovery i.e. Parking Eye Ltd vs Beavis (2015) UKSC 67 which is the authority for recovery of the parking charge itself and no more, since the sum £85 was held to already incorporate the costs of an automated private parking business model and the Supreme Court Judges held that a parking firm not in possession cannot plead any part of their case in damages. It is indisputable that an alleged “parking charge” penalty is a sum which the Supreme Court found is already inflated to more than comfortably cover all costs. The case provides a finding of fact by way of precedent, that the £85 (or up to a Trade Body ceiling of £100 depending on the parking firm) covers the costs of all the letters. Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court V Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practise continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (...) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6        In Claim numbers F0DP806M and F0DP201T, Britannia vs Crosby the courts went further in a landmark judgement in November 2019 which followed several parking charge claims being struck out in the area overseen by His Honour Judge Iain Hamilton-Douglas Hughes GC, the Designated Civil Judge for Dorset, Hampshire, Isle of Wight & Wiltshire. District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgement or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating “It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgement in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for a addi8onal sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998.  7.7        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.  7.8        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).  7.9        The Defendant is of the view that the Claimant knew, or should have known, that to claim in excess of £100 for a parking charge on private lands is disallowed under the CPRs, the Beavis case, the PoFA AND THE CRA 2015, and that relief from sanctions should be refused.    In Conclusion  8.1        I believe the Claimant has got use to intimidation tactics and has got greedy. 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I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. 
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please can someone advise on how to handle this? On 11 Jan Capquest issued me with a Sat Demand for a debt they had purchased from Egg.

 

I went to court and for a variety of reasons the Stat Demand was thrown out and I won. Please see here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/185549-capquest-stat-demand-set.html

 

Yesterday I received a letter from HL Legal Solicitors stating that they act for Capquest, and that on 11th Jan a stat demand was sent to me. They then state that they are "informed that you responsed to that demand and that on Jan 21 09 you made an arrangement to repay your account by monthly installments of £50."

 

Let me state I NEVER made such an offer and indeed what I did do was file a defence to the SD with the great help of the guys here, went to court and won.

 

It then continues "your failure to comply with your arrangement means our client is now able to present a petition to the court to seek an order that you be declared bankrupt based on your non compliance with the SD".

 

"Before considering this step our client is willing to give you one last oppertunity to avoid possible bankruptcy etc etc. You must contact CAPQUEST directly etc "

 

Do they not know the SD was thrown out? How should I respond please?

 

thanks again for all your help.

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Tell them just that - that the SD was thrown out - and they can Foxtrot Oscar. The right hand clearly does not know what the left hand is doing - no wonder they are losing money.

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Why bother telling the cretins it was thrown out. They are digging a very deep hole for themselves abd must be reported to the OFT.

 

HL iLegal are the pretend solicitors of CRAPquest and what they have sent you is obviously a standard threatogramme. They always expected people to ignore their SDs and not get them Set Aside so they have just sent you out their bog standard threat that follows one of their silly SDs.

 

Kick them and Kick them very hard.

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I would laugh out loud if this were not so utterly stupid, but, as already said, this is par for the course, albeit perhaps just another step into the running for the most unorganised bunch of idiots I have ever seen.!

 

I personally would not do their job for them and point out their error, let them carry on and dig an even deeper hole for themselves.

 

As already suggested however, I would cover yourself by sending a complaint to the OFT etc. I would also send a copy of their letter to the Court.

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I would laugh out loud if this were not so utterly stupid, but, as already said, this is par for the course, albeit perhaps just another step into the running for the most unorganised bunch of idiots I have ever seen.!

 

I personally would not do their job for them and point out their error, let them carry on and dig an even deeper hole for themselves.

 

As already suggested however, I would cover yourself by sending a complaint to the OFT etc. I would also send a copy of their letter to the Court.

 

I agree with this and earlier posts - let them try and take legal action. Ignore them but report them. Better than any blood sport!

 

However, this kind of misleading activity seems to be on the increase - ignoring a court's decision and carrying on regardless/lying about the outcome and intending to deceive. See this sticky:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/191951-copes-solicitors-have-they.html

 

Beggars belief, doesn't it?

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Hi Guys

 

please can someone advise on how to handle this? On 11 Jan Capquest issued me with a Sat Demand for a debt they had purchased from Egg.

 

I went to court and for a variety of reasons the Stat Demand was thrown out and I won. Please see here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/185549-capquest-stat-demand-set.html

 

Yesterday I received a letter from HL Legal Solicitors stating that they act for Capquest, and that on 11th Jan a stat demand was sent to me. They then state that they are "informed that you responsed to that demand and that on Jan 21 09 you made an arrangement to repay your account by monthly installments of £50."

 

Let me state I NEVER made such an offer and indeed what I did do was file a defence to the SD with the great help of the guys here, went to court and won.

 

It then continues "your failure to comply with your arrangement means our client is now able to present a petition to the court to seek an order that you be declared bankrupt based on your non compliance with the SD".

 

"Before considering this step our client is willing to give you one last oppertunity to avoid possible bankruptcy etc etc. You must contact CAPQUEST directly etc "

 

Do they not know the SD was thrown out? How should I respond please?

 

thanks again for all your help.

you should make a formal complaint about this to the office of fair trading and also to trading standards. Point out to them that you are making your complaint under the CPUT regulations and that you consider that they are operating unfair commercial practices. Point out to the OFT as well that this kind of action is specifically against the debt collection guidelines were laid out and the in principle they are violating their licence conditions.

 

I would also suggest complaining to the court. Rights to the judge who threw out the statutory demand. Include a copy of the order and a copy of the letter which you have received from the solicitors and simply ask for some help and point out that you understand that this kind of practice is not unknown and that you are worried about some bankruptcy being declared in your absence.

 

Although of course this is not a formal and correct way to approach these things, it may attract the attention of the judge and you may get an interesting response.

 

Do all of this now

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Although of course this is not a formal and correct way to approach these things, it may attract the attention of the judge and you may get an interesting response.
It was inevitable that their contempt of debtors would eventually progress to 'Contempt of Court'.
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i agree with bankfodder and would use the fact that you are a LIP and write to the JUDGE that dismissed the SD and tell her that you are very worried and upset as you thought she had disposed of the matter

 

i don't think that the court would be too pleased

 

as has been said- pursuing a matter which the court has ruled out can ONLY be taken as contempt of court

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As in the Cope sticky, there's no way they can claim this is an admin error - the details they have given you are far too detailed. I wonder what their excuse will be?

 

Office Junior? Dog ate my keyboard? Rogue employee? Time of month? Male aggressive disorder?

 

Or just that they're lying, cheating barstewards?

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I would write to them, then its all documented and send recorded.

 

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I know what you are saying Dave but the whole thing is already well documented.

 

1. The Original SD from Crapquest

2. The Court Case and Judgement setting the SD aside

3. Along come HL iLegal telling HUGE porkies IN WRITING.

 

It really does not get any better than this. Why should the OP bother letting them know the cock up they have made. How satisfying will it be to add Crapquest to the OFT 2009 Hit List.

 

If the OP writes to HL iLegal he will put them on guard and they will come up with the usual excuses. However if he lets them go on churning out more threats and lies then they will be supplying their own rope with which to hang themselves, their own petard on which to hang themselve and their own hole to bury themselves in.

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Go to the court concerned, fill in an N44 and ask for an injunction and costs to you.... end of play for Capquest.

 

HL Illegal are trying it on - they passed my case back to Capital 1 after loosing and I am doing that route at the moment... third DCA to go down this year (and it's only MAY) after trying to chase non-existent debts!!!

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I agree with BF but I stress you MUST do as suggested NOW - not at some time in the future just because you've been told there's now't to worry about. If you don't act promptly who knows what they'll get upto next - debt collectors banging on your door perhaps

 

You must also again as suggested by BF report them forthwith to the OFT. In addition other than sending them copies of your corre with the court don't even bother telling them your reporting them to the OFT just do it

 

Remember by doing as advised you'll be doing everyone here a big favour - These rogues have to be stopped

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