1st Credit get a mention in the Sunday Times (SD's)

[Viscount Stair]

I notice that just one of the sessions next month is about doing the job legally rather than profitably!

[fuzzybobble]

“It will be a busy time for the debt collection industry,” he concluded, “and a busy time for economic journalists.”

 

It will also be a very busy time for CAG. But then we're already geared up for it and are already recuting the people who will use the knowledge to help others in the future.

 

When it comes to a recession we've been preparing for the last 2 years.

 

Now it's our turn to tell the big boys where to go. And have the law, and media on our side for a change.

 

It's taken a long time, but the tide is turning. Are we going to make the most of it? You bet we are.

[cerberusalert]

I notice that just one of the sessions next month is about doing the job legally rather than profitably!

 

I wonder whether they dress-up like their American brethren?

 

[SkemDosser]

flintstones1960: Have also posted a reply & mentioned CAG - they dont appear to be on any hurry to update them tho

 

SD:

I'm a bit dubious about the efficiency of these newspaper message boards- I've contributed to other articles a lot less contentious and things haven't appeared so it may be just a server prob they have rather than censorship.

 

That said posts supporting the articles do seem to get on there quickly before any cut off point arrives and in this case the contributors 'supporting' the debt collection process are obviously DCA employee drones. A tip-off to First Credit from the venerable Times, anyone? lol

 

As to whether anyone reads these post-article comments and takes them seriously anymore, I dunno. I stopped years ago. Nothing lost trying to plug the CAG message on them tho...

[NORNIRONGIRL08]

I remember a whille ago in one of the papers that Dispatches on Channel 4 were asking for people who had been affected by a DCA to e mail them, now this was a while ago, and I know a few people had suggested contacting Watchdog.

 

It was before I joined CAG

[NORNIRONGIRL08]

I remember a whille ago in one of the papers that Dispatches on Channel 4 were asking for people who had been affected by a DCA to e mail them, now this was a while ago, and I know a few people had suggested contacting Watchdog.

 

It was before I joined CAG

[ScarletPimpernel]

These ridiculous conferences are just debt-porn for the DCAs, aren't they?

 

Lots of grubby men in cheap suits masturbating furiously at the torrent of bullsh1t flowing from their speakers' lips. I bet Nathoo's feeble attempt at humour gave them a little extra frisson...

 

The reality, of course, is that all this grandiose posturing is part of the turd-polishing way the debt industry seeks to delude itself and the outside world that their fantasy world (the one where they're all compliant) is reality. I think some of them have convinced themselves - vide the delusion that they act in a 'lawful, justified and necessary' way, rather than a parasitic industry that exists to exploit the misfortunes of others. Who do these cretins think they are - Crusaders trying to stem the hordes of evil debtors?

 

'Sumptuous Gala Dinner' - a festival of ready-made bow ties and hideous dresses worn by people who look as if they'd be more comfortable at a 'restaurant' where they ask if you'd like fries with that, judging by the images of previous events. No doubt the finest cook-and-chill food and vats of Lambrini were served. Some of the attendees look as if they found cutlery a novelty. Still, let's look on the bright side - the money spent on these absurd celebrations didn't get sent to the DCAs offshore investors.

[Having_A_Knightmare]

Just emailed the reporter of the ST with all my gripping details of them losing the SD and paying me loads of costs.

Lets see what happens!!!

 

HAK

[fuzzybobble]

Just emailed the reporter of the ST with all my gripping details of them losing the SD and paying me loads of costs.

Lets see what happens!!!

 

HAK

 

That's what I like to see. The more of us who try to get these parasites exposed for what they really are, the better.

 

In the current climate where DCA's and struggling peeps are what the media are looking for, as we are now suddenly fashionable, then we have to strike, and give them a good kick while the media wants stories from people getting the crap from DCA's, banks, and the government.

 

We have the ammo and lots of stories and experiences to give them.

 

If we don't get a DCA shut down in 2009, then we're not really trying. Once we get the first victory, then it will inspire a lot more to join in. Then at last, ordinary people can make a big difference. Not just with DCA's but in a lot of unjust situations in life.

[lickthewallfatboy]

how much would it take for a decent sized ad to be taken out in these papers advertising CAG and the services offered here for free?

 

they couldn't censor that,could they?

[ODC]

I find it amazing that 1st Credit fobbed off the Sunday Times with an almost identical feeble excuse to that which they used on Panorama.

[Kraken1]

how much would it take for a decent sized ad to be taken out in these papers advertising CAG and the services offered here for free?

 

Wouldn't that sort of action get the site dangerously close to needing a consumer credit licence?

[blipvert]

Wouldn't that sort of action get the site dangerously close to needing a consumer credit licence?

 

I wouldn't have thought so, we don't provide credit. We're a club who have an interest in consumer rights.

[blipvert]

how much would it take for a decent sized ad to be taken out in these papers advertising CAG and the services offered here for free?

 

they couldn't censor that,could they?

 

Dunno about censorship but I think cost might be the issue here (anyone know what scc stands for ?).

 

http://mentor.xssl.net/~admin412/wp-content/uploads/daily-mirror-ratecard.pdf

[clutchingatstraws]

Maybe

 

Single Column Centimetre

[ScarletPimpernel]

I find it amazing that 1st Credit fobbed off the Sunday Times with an almost identical feeble excuse to that which they used on Panorama.

 

Oh, I don't know. Tell a big enough lie, and repeat it often enough, etc.

[lickthewallfatboy]

perhaps an approach where an ad was placed in papers with local circulation might be more suitable when it comes to cost?

 

I know I would have no problem placing an ad at my own expense in my local rag to raise the profile of CAG with people who wouldn't otherwise be aware,and who are really under the cosh of DCA's and don't know where to turn......

[sosumi]

I find it amazing that 1st Credit fobbed off the Sunday Times with an almost identical feeble excuse to that which they used on Panorama.

It's one word, four letters:

DEBT. Stigma and preconceptions.

Economies have it, countries have it, banks have it, companies have it - and that's acceptable?

Yet old Mrs Jones down the road gets a bill she doesn't owe from a 'debt collector' for £50... now that's an entirely different thing.:mad:

[sosumi]

There was talk of a CAG poster/ad last year, after the news about Mrs Brazier's death:mad::mad:

I think it's needed much more now.

[Viscount Stair]

It's one word, four letters:

DEBT. Stigma and preconceptions.

Economies have it, countries have it, banks have it, companies have it - and that's acceptable?

Yet old Mrs Jones down the road gets a bill she doesn't owe from a 'debt collector' for £50... now that's an entirely different thing.:mad:

Interesting point.

 

Another round of the same word game is that is credit when you take it out, it only becomes debt when you need to pay it back!

[Viscount Stair]

Maybe the solution (cheaper and less likely to invite licensing problems) would be letters to local papers, even try and get some editorial coverage.

 

Local papers are less likely to be dependent on financial advertisers (unless you count the property pages) and more likely to be community minded.

 

Not sure how this would best be done in practice but I throw it out for consideration.

[Kraken1]

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraken1

Wouldn't that sort of action get the site dangerously close to needing a consumer credit licence?

 

 

I wouldn't have thought so, we don't provide credit. We're a club who have an interest in consumer rights.

 

Licences are needed for other things aside from providing credit; debt collection, debt counselling, credit information services, being a credit reference agency, debt administration (?). There is a leaflet on the oft website about it all.

[Viscount Stair]

Would it be so bad to have to get one? They seem to give them to anyone and they never seem to take them away! (Only kidding and I'll get my coat.)

[lickthewallfatboy]

does this site have a licence?.....after all,advice is being given here,and despite disclaimers in signatures,it is still advice

[Werner M]

.....just thinking;.....does the Citizen Advice Bureau have one ????