Locked in car park

[My Real Name]

Business Name - Company Registration Number

 

Universal Security (UK) Limited - 4220085

 

Current Individuals that run the organisation:

 

Name - Position

 

Peter John Naylor - OFFICER

 

This may be the same chap. Or it may be a different chap. Born 1956, according to this page.

 

A DCA that has done time for dishonesty. Who' would have thought it?

[Bookworm]

The invoice (not quote) for the new replacement barrier was dated as written on the 20th March.

Oh no, it's not. It's dated the 17th. It's stamped the 20th, which would be either when received by the college or possibly even paid for on the 20th.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Oh no, it's not. It's dated the 17th. It's stamped the 20th, which would be either when received by the college or possibly even paid for on the 20th.

 

Crikey by jove you're right!!!! So in a week the security company forgot they had already installed a new barrier, the engineer didn't notice that the barrier was brand new , blue and not bright orange and presumably 'NOT BROKEN' and none of the staff involved noticed the 'staff' car park had a new barrier? Astonishing.

[middenmess]

If this was not such a serious matter it could be turned into a stage production as it has all the ingredients for an end of the pier seaside farce!

[Toulose LeDebt]

This may be the same chap. Or it may be a different chap. Born 1956, according to this page.

 

A DCA that has done time for dishonesty. Who' would have thought it?

 

 

There's a photo of this Pete Naylor on Facebook if you start from the 'Mutley Crown' page. (The directors of US(UK)ltd also own the Mutley Crown pub in Plymouth).

I'm no good at guessing peoples age from photos.

 

 

EDIT the Peter Naylor in Plymouth is 45 according to my source.

Edited July 13, 2009 by Toulose LeDebt

[middenmess]

Forgot the obvious title for such a show--

 

No sex,lies and videotape'

[MARTIN3030]

Oh, I know that. But we CAGgers also know that the hydra has many, many heads indeed... ;-)

 

And Martin, it is "Kiptower and I", not "me and Kiptower".

 

Sorry Bookie yes you are correct-sometimes my efforts to negotiate the English language can be influenced...usually after reading Raymonds posts,which quite like my use of English,often make no sense at all.

[buzby]

usually after reading Raymonds posts,which quite like my use of English,often make no sense at all.

 

Shame. If you like, I'll make them easier to understand if you're having so much difficulty?

[Patma]

Can anyone explain why Plymouth College of Art would need or want a consumer credit licence? I wonder if it's normal for educational establishments to have them nowadays?

I would have thought that if someone didn't pay their course fees, they wouldn't need a licence to chase them for it, or am I being a bit thick?

If Martin owed me £100, I don't need a licence to pursue him for it do I. Or is that the brave new world we live in?

Edited August 28, 2009 by Patma

[Yorky2008]

This might explain why the damage has been described as 'to the motor and gear linkage', and also as 'to the mechanism' and also as 'damage to the motor casing' by various parties.

 

Interesting, just picked up this snippet. The motor casing is usually internal to the barrier housing - are they also therefore stating that Fred opened the housing and purposefully damaged the motor casing? Also these things are usally pretty solidly built so to damage one of those would take some force!!!

 

Yorky.

[Patma]

Interesting, just picked up this snippet. The motor casing is usually internal to the barrier housing - are they also therefore stating that Fred opened the housing and purposefully damaged the motor casing? Also these things are usally pretty solidly built so to damage one of those would take some force!!!

Ah very interesting thanks Yorky. To someone like me who doesn't understand the technical terms, it doesn't mean much, but I see what you mean now.

He clearly didn't open up the housing, as evidenced by the CCTV so someone else must have done that.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Interesting, just picked up this snippet. The motor casing is usually internal to the barrier housing - are they also therefore stating that Fred opened the housing and purposefully damaged the motor casing? Also these things are usally pretty solidly built so to damage one of those would take some force!!!

 

Yorky.

 

It's very odd isn't it? Even on a direct drive design raising the barrier would simply exert rotational force on the motor spindle. As it happens these barriers are not direct drive so there is a linkage between the barrier and the motor further isolating the possibility of any damage to the motor. To damage the casing would require force to be exerted across another plane and as you rightly point out this would not be possible without opening the case.

When you read the 'engineers' explanation below it makes no sense.

 

Why on earth would the motor casing shear?

 

One might expect in particular circumstances that the motor case mountings could possibly shear ie the armature is wedged and sufficient torque applied to the pulley, but the casing itself could not possibly shear. What they are saying is that by rotating the motor armature (rotor in the picture) the casing was subjected to enough force to break. Well armatures are designed to rotate and are held firmly in place with a bearing at either end so the force is rotational about an axis. I think the manufacturer will confirm that there are no circumstances in which the motor casing itself would shear.

 

 

[Bookworm]

Can anyone explain why PCAD would need or want a consumer credit licence?

Students loans? As a guess?

[Patma]

Students loans? As a guess?

But aren't they administered by the students loans company?

[MARTIN3030]

Yep I would imagine every College and Uni in the country has to have one.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Can anyone explain why PCAD would need or want a consumer credit licence? I wonder if it's normal for educational establishments to have them nowadays?

I would have thought that if someone didn't pay their course fees, they wouldn't need a licence to chase them for it, or am I being a bit thick?

If Martin owed me £100, I don't need a licence to pursue him for it do I. Or is that the brave new world we live in?

 

Maybe it's to permit them to offer the option of paying course fees by installments?

[Patma]

Maybe it's to permit them to offer the option of paying course fees by installments?

Oh yes good thinking, thanks

[Patma]

Hello Annushka, welcome to the forum. Don't be shy.

[JonCris]

PS can we get the media involved

[Patma]

Fred is here now and would like to say a word.

Thanks to all for your unbelievable help and resourcefulness, not including visitor Bryan of course and other unnamed guests. When we have defeated them, and I see them behind bars, I am going to buy you all a huge case of beers .

[kiptower]

good lucky fred give them hell, oh mines a milk shake , dont do DRINK

[Toulose LeDebt]

Hi Fred. Don't you worry about that Bryan he's not the messiah just a very naughty boy.

[labrat]

ill have wine not beer thanks

 

just kidding havent been much help :/

[Bookworm]

Hi Fred. Don't you worry about that Bryan he's not the messiah just a very naughty boy.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Bookworm]

PS can we get the media involved

I was wondering about running something in the local papers, asking people if they have had the same kind of incident happening to them, and asking them to come forward if yes... Just in case... ;-)