Locked in car park

[Patma]

Okay done. (Only just realised that it also stores a copy of the replies which explains why it fills up double quicktime)

Well done. Yes it took me quite a while to work that out too.

No doubt it will fill up again in quick time.

 

Hope you get to enjoy the cricket today!

[Toulose LeDebt]

Missed the lot of it had to go to flippin' Wolverhampton of all places.

 

On the bright side I see this thread is 501 not out, I'd declare, put the opposition in to bat and see if you can get a couple of quick wickets. It's very difficult for a side that's been in the field for so long to adjust to a bit of fast bowling.

[Patma]

It's very difficult for a side that's been in the field for so long to adjust to a bit of fast bowling.

or how about a bit of leg spin trickery, just when they're expecting a leg break, we slip in a googly :D

[royboy68]

If its Fred doing the bowling then its you Patma whos got them stumped

[Toulose LeDebt]

Good idea maybe if Fred is going to try a bit of spin bowling he should go for an attacking field and introduce four slips, I don't see any danger at point and the covers are pretty good so anything played out that direction will be stopped long before the boundary.

The afternoon session is likely to be interesting I can see several wickets falling between lunchtime and tea.

[Patma]

 

If its Fred doing the bowling then its you Patma whos got them stumped

Aw that's very sweet thanks! but actually I'm just like a runner and you lot are doing the batting:D

 

Good idea maybe if Fred is going to try a bit of spin bowling he should go for an attacking field and introduce four slips, I don't see any danger at point and the covers are pretty good so anything played out that direction will be stopped long before the boundary.

The afternoon session is likely to be interesting I can see several wickets falling between lunchtime and tea.

mmm....sounds a good plan;) and with any luck the other side won't be feeling like any tea today or come to think of it lunch either;)

[kiptower]

dont you let fred near that wicket, he will be lifting the bits off the top to let the ball through :lol: oooops

[Toulose LeDebt]

dont you let fred near that wicket, he will be lifting the bits off the top to let the ball through :lol: oooops

 

Quality Kiptower.

[Toulose LeDebt]

with any luck the other side won't be feeling like any tea today or come to think of it lunch either;)

 

Then there should be plenty left over to offer our guests.

[Patma]

dont you let fred near that wicket, he will be lifting the bits off the top to let the ball through :lol: oooops

 

:lol: That's hilarious:lol:. and then he'd have to be "bailed" out...silly me that already happened.

[Patma]

Good idea maybe if Fred is going to try a bit of spin bowling he should go for an attacking field and introduce four slips, I don't see any danger at point and the covers are pretty good so anything played out that direction will be stopped long before the boundary.

Patma rubs her hands in glee at the prospect of the next bit of spin bowling about to be bowled.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Well Patma todays surprise will have landed a few hours ago now. I think it spells out the options and implications quite clearly but judging by the way the matter has been handled to date I'm still not 100% convinced that anyone on the other side has the neccesary qualities to understand just how much trouble they could be in, they certainly appear to be a particularly amateurish outfit. I therefore hope that as planned you have popped part 2 in the post today or can get it sent by tomorrow.

In the circumstances I see no grounds for those concerned to ask for or be offered leniency it is after all not Fred who has done anything wrong. If this is how these people are prepared to conduct their business they deserve everything that's coming their way and if that includes a day trip to London, a black mark on the CV, or worse then tough!!!

 

I'll have part 3 completed over the weekend it is a very narrow remit and one I can find no defence to in light of the fact that the 'knowledge' was provably imparted to the parties concerned as of 1pm today. I can't see the barrister wanting do much other than get as far away as possible from this mess which will of course be completely inarguable in Court upon presentation of a well drafted part 3.

 

I suggest Fred gets the forms completed and ready to present on the morning of the deadline expiration. Don't give them ten minutes longer than you have stated they have persecuted him for three long years so can hardly blub that he's the one being unreasonable now can they?

You already have the pics and the video so you just need a witness statement and draft orders. I'm happy with the WS (it leaves no room for argument) and strikeout application draft but am seeking advice over costs and damages. It might ultimately be better for Fred to start a seperate case against the claimant in this respect as it will drastically widen the scope for damages. We'll advise you of this at the correct time.

It will be for the Judge to decide whether the barrier was in the cradle and securely locked in position when Fred arrived etc. etc. I can only see one outcome to a strike out upon production of the evidence. Defending the strikeout app will be difficult at best and dangerous at worst in light of todays events.

 

The Human Rights Act issue is possibly still going to be another valid route to take but let's see what happens with this matter first?

[Patma]

I therefore hope that as planned you have popped part 2 in the post today or can get it sent by tomorrow.

Is the pope catholic?

I am sticking to the plan like glue TLD no worries!.

I'll have part 3 completed over the weekend it is a very narrow remit and one I can find no defence to in light of the fact that the 'knowledge' was provably imparted to the parties concerned as of 1pm today. I can't see the barrister wanting do much other than get as far away as possible from this mess which will of course be completely inarguable in Court upon presentation of a well drafted part 3.

That's fantastic, thankyou TLD.

[banker_rhymes_with]

Is the pope catholic?

 

Hell, I always thought he was Jewish!

 

But I'll get over it!

 

Cheers,

BRW

[Annoying Twit]

Patma,

 

If PCAD is subject to answering an FOI request then I would ask the following in addion to that already susggested about model, make, date of installation, mtce regime, etc

 

1) what exactly was the damage to the barrier (find out if it did all need replacing!).

 

2) how many times and for what reasons has the maintainer has been called out in the previous 24mths to fixed faults with the barriers, their nature and fault correction required.

 

I have seen FOI requests made in other situations for other problems.

 

A good thing to have on a FOI request is to request the minutes of meetings where the barrier (or other thing) was discussed. This can reveal all sorts of weird and unexpected stuff. Though, you can't be too general with the request or that can lead to the request being rejected.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Decisions the Judge will have to make.

 

1) Is this barrier securely locked in the cradle?

 

 

 

2) Is the barrier securely locked in it's cradle when Fred arrives?

 

 

3) Is Fred trying to contact security on the intercom or is Fred trying to get twenty quid out a cashpoint machine?

 

 

4) How many minutes have elapsed between the first picture of Fred at th e scene and the first time he touches the barrier?

 

 

5) Does this look like a man using excessive force to cause criminal damage or is the barrier easy to lift because it was already broken?

 

 

 

6) Well we know what time Fred arrived and I can tell you he touched the barrier for a total of about 15 seconds so let's see what time this man who couldn't be bothered to wait for security finally left.

 

 

 

So if Fred was at the barrier for 11 minutes 11 seconds and touched the barrier for 15 seconds of that time what was he doing the rest of the time?

 

(i) Attempting to contact the non existnat security?

(ii) Searching for a sign with a phone number for security?

(iii) Both the above?

[kiptower]

(iii) of course

[Patma]

Congratulations kiptower, I think you've just won one of TLD's star prizes.

[bedlington83]

Will it be possible for us to see documents 1, 2 & 3 when it's safe for them to be made public? I'm absolutely fascinated about what may be in them.

[Toulose LeDebt]

Congratulations kiptower, I think you've just won one of TLD's star prizes.

 

Yes I'm amazed at how quickly he answered too, some people seem to think it's a lot more difficult than it really is.

 

There's bad news about the prize though it was going to be £20 but every time I key my PIN number into the cashpoint machine I just get a loud hollow echoing noise which sounds exactly like an empty office.

[kiptower]

strange i just used the clone of your card and the barrier back of the shops here kept going up and down

 

and i didnt see fred anywhere near it

[Patma]

Will it be possible for us to see documents 1, 2 & 3 when it's safe for them to be made public? I'm absolutely fascinated about what may be in them.

I odn't see why not, but TLD is the expert in that department.

(Machiavelli would be proud of him! I certainly am! And I'm jolly glad we're on the same side LOL

[Toulose LeDebt]

Will it be possible for us to see documents 1, 2 & 3 when it's safe for them to be made public? I'm absolutely fascinated about what may be in them.

 

 

Of course it wouldn't be correct etiquette on Cag not to. The only reason we kept doc 1 on the quiet is because we didn't want the recipient getting any advance warning whatsoever. Spoils your Christmas if you find out what you're getting on Christmas eve doesn't it?

 

Now that doc 1 has been received by the recipient I see no problem with it being posted up here and just 5 mins ago wrote to Patma on this subject.

 

The aim was originally to go straight for the jugular and submit a strikeout application. Looking closely I identified one possible escape route to the strikeout remit for a sharp counsel. As during the strikeout app Fred will be making some very serious allegations about the claimants case it is imperative to be able to prove these claims with supporting evidence. This is easy because a Cagger found the minutes of the meeting and the claimants solicitors kindly furnished Fred with a copy of the unedited video footage rather than the artistic version which the police saw. The other crucial aspect of the strikeout app centres upon whether certain actions were taken 'knowingly'. Sevice of 'Part 1' of the plan removes any element of doubt that as of approx 1pm today the claimant is 'knowingly' presenting the information.

 

To defend a strikeout app or indeed to continue to trial after todays little surprise landed might be very difficult indeed and if the provably false claims are removed from the POC there is not enough left to satisfy the basic requirements of CPR relating to POC's and statements of case.

 

It will all make sense when you see it.

[BSC]

I tip my hat to you TLD. Can't wait to see what happens next.

[kiptower]

well if they dont run now TLD they are total idiots,

 

well done TLD proud of you