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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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who was he then on here?

 

If these over generous ex england managers are that flush then maybe they could donated a bit of money towards CAG. :)

 

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Presumably he used s36(2)(b) of the Administration of Justice Act 1970 and Cheltenham & Gloucester v Norgan.

 

Yeah, like as a footballer he totally understands that:p . Not what you know as who you know-he obviously has the legal equivalent of Nick??-the chap who gets all the celebs off their motoring offences which we mere mortals have no chance of avoiding. A clear case of one law for us and another for 'them'. But who are 'them' now? Used to be those born with a 'silver spoon' in their mouth,nowadays its just a question of money:-x

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Can anyone shed some light on Post Codes/departments for Lloyds please cos it's becoming a bit confusing now.

So far in date order I have had letters from:

 

Customer Support Unit

Trafalgar Place

Brighton

BN1 4FY

I have never written to the address above :confused:

 

Then I have:

 

Collections Centre

Brighton BN1 4BE

 

 

Then I get this one:

 

Customer Service Centre

Dept 01-01

Box 3

BX1 1LT

 

The above Post Code according to Royal Mail does NOT exist.

The best of it is it has LloydsTSB Scotland accross the top of it ?

 

And finally back to here:

 

Collections Centre

BN1 4BE

 

Now the questions.

If I address a letter to Collections Centre, BN1 4BE. Will it be delivered to the correct place ?

 

The address with the dodgy Post Code is regarding charges they are going to put on my Current Account, so if the Post Code is unrecognised by the Post Office how do I write to them ?

 

How do I convince these clowns that if I can't afford the loan/CC repayments, just putting charges on my Current Account is detrimental to the situation ?

 

Advice / views / letters welcome.

 

Pete.

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HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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As much as I apprecite the replies guys. but not one of those addresses is remotely like the one I am getting letters from. Maybe my point was missed.

Why am I getting a letter from LloydsTSB Scotland regarding my Current Account charges, and the Post Code does not exist !

I don't live or Bank in bloody Scotland :) Although I do have relatives up there.

So who do I address this to ?

 

Pete.

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what exactly are you sending them?

 

If it's a preliminary request for payment then

 

Customer Care

Lloyds TSB

125 Colmore Row

Birmingham

B3 3SF

 

 

if your serving papers then

 

 

LLOYDS TSB BANK PLC

25 GRESHAM STREET

LONDON

EC2V 7HN

 

(which although it was ages ago, was the only address I used for my wifes entire claim)

 

or if your just responding to the collections dept, send it to the Brighton address

 

Collections Centre

Brighton BN1 4BE

 

the full address (of at least 1 lloyds tsb office is)

 

Lloyds Tsb Bank Plc

Sussex House 1-9

Gloucester Place

BRIGHTON

BN1 4BE

 

from the royal mail website

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BN postcodes are Brighton in Sussex (Can't remember if it's East or West now, possibly East.... if that's any help.

 

oh being my home town i can definately confirm east sussex for brighton. (they have several buildings in brighton so no surprise there are different bn postcodes)

 

i believe the gloucester place is their largest building in town

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  • 11 months later...

Accrding to the latest TV ads, I wonder if anyone 'voting' read this

 

BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Lloyds pays $350m to end US case

 

Really does make you wonder how these banks get away with the way they trade, any other business would be closed down and the directors hung out to dry.

 

Any thoughts.

 

Pete.

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Ah yes I saw that as well - such innocents and of course none of the 180m they have put aside to settle this will come out of our taxes that have been used to bail them out when they weren't making quite such huge profits as before

If you can keep you head when all of those around you are losing theirs try parking your helicopter somewhere else

 

 

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Well, I don't think that they asked the US Justice Department. :D:D:D

 

The US Justice Department said the London based bank had acknowledged "criminal conduct" (Source: Sky News)

 

Oh well, looks like H M Government (Read; you and me) will be bailing them out again.

 

Where is Angela Knight as representative of the British Bankers Association to comment when you 'need' her? Incidently, Angela's profile on ZoomInfo used to mention her former (Now resigned) Non-Executive Directorship of Lloyds TSB, it seems that this chapter of her career has now disappeared? Strange!

 

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You can complain to your telephone provider if Lloyds TSB collection agency try phoning at unreasonable hours, eg evenings or on Sundays. Remember that Lloyds TSB Collection Agency are a LLoyds TSB company, but as they handle debt collections for them, they can be quite aggressive in their tactics. You WILL need to re-submit your budget/ affordable payments to the Lloyds collection agency. It will help considerably if you consult CCCS debt remedy for free online. It's a bit of a hassle to fill in all your details, but they provide printouts from a PDF your remedy booklet, from which you can print budget and income details etc. to send in. I would also send in a medical paper from your GP confirming your medical condition as long-term and unfitness to work (GP will probably charge you £10), proof of income/ pension and proof of incapacity benefit (photocopies are fine!) For some reason Credit card companies expect you to have contacted a debt solution organisation. Don't worry though, CCCS are a charity, work for free and deal with you anonymously if you wish. Certainly DON'T go to a company like Debtline who charge fees! Your rights under OFT regulations mean you can INSIST that you only pay what you can comfortably afford. You can cancel direct debits and use your own payment method, eg standing order which Lloyds TSB CANNOT adjust. Lloyds TSB CANNOT insist that you increase your monthly payment if it is all you can afford. If they persist, quote OFT regulations and say they have no right to charge you more than you can afford. They may well continue to ask for further payment but you can LEGALLY refuse to pay anything extra as long as you pay something each month, however little (ie £1 or more). It is vital that you make this payment amount that you can afford EVERY MONTH ON TIME. Also make it clear in every phonecall and letter that you contacted them for assistance as soon as you knew you'd be in financial difficulty, and be polite but repeat that they are treating you very unreasonably given your heart condition and that such treatment could exacerbate your heart trouble and leave them (Lloyds TSB) open to legal action against them from resultant stress caused to you. This SHOULD make them back off a little bit! I would also point out to them that other companies such as Capital One have both a short term plan and long term plan where interest and charges are stopped for people having genuine financial difficulties. Ask why this is not the case with them! You may need toget to be as 'fit' as they are in standing up to them! I would ignore most telephone calls from them and only answer them by phone every few months. It is IMPORTANT to resubmit budget and income details at least 12 monthly and 6 monthly if they ask for this. It is also VITAL to reply promptly to any letters from them. Unfortunately, as to abating interest and legitimate debt collection costs they deal with customers on a case by case basis. It also depends on the extent of debt to them, and other debts, and degree and depth of financial difficulty. KEEP writing to them asking them to stop charging interest and other charges, saying each time that you simply cannot afford to meet them. it is possible over time that that they might bring in an outside debt collection agency. But you have exactly the same rights ie to only pay what you can afford and not be forced to pay more. It IS NOT A CRIME TO BE IN DEBT. At worst it could go to county court, but again they CANNOT force you to pay beyond your means. If after a CCJ (county court judgement) bailiffs were to arrive, they have no right to forceable entry (unless previously invited in, which DO NOT DO) though open doors or windows might allow them entry whether you are in or out. It would be wise though if it ever reached this stage to park cars away from the property or securely in a garage. Do be aware that once in default (ie not making 'required' minimum payment) you MUST NOT run up any other credit card debts either with Lloyds or any other credit company. (legally this would then constitute fraud as not having the means to repay). While Lloyds and their or other collection agencies may put pressure on or try to make things uncomfortable for you, they cannot get more than you can afford from you. FULL STOP. I am very sorry though to hear of your treatment by them, especially as arising from medical condition(s). Hope this is some help!

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Sorry forgot to add that refusing your token payment is just a gesture by them with no legal stance. Simply ignore them and pay them this amount monthly. They may continue with further 'refusal' gestures! Or other unwanted 'pressure' tactics - just ignore these too. Write back each time saying this is the amount you can afford to pay and that you are unable to increase this. By all means say that if you get any more funds you will pay back more if and when you can, though state that this is very unlikely at the moment! I would also point out to them that each letter and stamp (plus travel costs to a postbox) is that much less that month you can afford to add to your payment and that if you have to continue to write to them frequently, you may have to reduce your monthly payment as it is to them! They might just get the message!

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Could anyone please advise me on this please, I'm not really concerned about it but it could come in handy if anything crops up in the future.

I have been paying £1 a month without fail for the last 5 years to a Credit Card and Loan from Lloyds and have never had any statements regarding both accounts. Is this normal ?

 

Thanks

 

Pete.

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no

 

by law they must send statement every 12mts

 

do these show on your cra file?

 

are you paying llooyds or some fleecing dca?

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for the reply,

Both accounts were passed to the inhouse collections dept BLS, they sent a payment book for each one when they eventually accepted my payment offer of £1 per month but since they ran out I have just paid over the counter using the reference numbers that were in the books. Like I said I'm not particularly bothered, I was just wondering why I have heard nothing at all from them regarding statements.

 

Thanks

 

Pete.

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Hi,

 

I'm not sure why they haven't been sending statements, any charges you could re-claim ?

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Hi,

 

I'm not sure why they haven't been sending statements

 

They never bothered sending a copy of my CCA either, although I did get a letter saying "Please find enclosed as requested......." and there was nothing in it :)

 

any charges you could re-claim ?

 

I didn't have any PPI on the loan, so nothing to claim.

 

Pete

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