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    • What type of finance is it?   HP, PCP, Loan? They want her to ring so they can bully her into making payments she can't afford...unless she can record her calls then IMHO, I'd keep everything in writing. Is £400 SSP her only income? There's no chance they will justify taking half of that.   Lodge a formal complaint with them ASAP, exhaust it, and then you can escalate it sooner rather than later, ruddy sharks!  
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    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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Yes, I Agree With That But

thats For A Mortage

Not A Secured Loan

 

25 K Loan Then Becomes A Mortage, Below Is A Secured Loan

Lke I Said, In Court Welcome Have Withdrawn There Action Rather Than Disclose This Con

 

If a Secured Loan Over £25K is Recorded By Debt Collection Agency as A Mortgage, Why Does It State " FIXED SUM LOAN AGREEMENT REGULATED BY THE CONSUMER CREDIT ACT OF 1974" Secured On...........????????

 

Does This Question Make Sense?:lol:

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RAZOR

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WELCOME FINANCIAL SERVICES

COMPLIANCE

RUDDINGTON FIELDS BUSINESS PARK

RUDDINGTON

NOTTINGHAM

NG11 6NZ

 

DATE

 

ACCOUNT NUMBER

 

F.A.O. Peter ball

 

Central recoveries

 

Thank you for the reply dated xxxxxx to my complaint for which the contents have been noted. (Copy enclosed)

 

In my original letter, (copy enclosed) I requested an explanation as to

 

1/ why mortgage indemnity fee had been included on my agreement, being it’s a secured loan, not a mortgage.

 

2/ why my secured loan is recorded as a mortgage on my credit reference files

 

I’ll take your response in stages.

 

I am grateful that you confirmed that I indeed do have a secured loan and not a mortgage.

 

Your statement that credit reference agencies record secured loans as a mortgage is very misleading. The credit reference agencies only record the data that is provided to them. As this is the case, welcome finance are the data suppliers supplying that data.

 

I now move onto the issue with mortgage indemnity fee and your response to check the terms and conditions.

 

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The mortgage indemnity fee shall be charged to you by being included in the total amount of loan.

 

in return for payment of this fee, we agree that, in the event that it is necessary for us to enforce the security, and the value of the secured property upon sale is insufficient to cover all sums then due by you to us under this agreemment,we shall not pursue you for such shortfall

 

The terms and conditions do not answer my questions

 

By what legal authority can welcome financial services charge mortgage indemnity fee on a secured loan, not a mortgage

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As explained in my previous letter

 

A mortgage is a loan secured by a charge on a property above £25000

 

A secured loan is a charge on a property regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 below £25000

 

I require the relevant legislation you use to charge this fee according to the financial services authority or any other authority.

 

I also require an explanation as to why this mortage indemnity fee, being a charge for credit, has interest applied to it.

 

It is not too much to ask for a reply to these questions instead of a reply more interested in corporate sensitivity, so a simple answer please to a simple question so I can put this matter behind me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 1 year later...

Evening all short story - have ppi with welcome and sent them a letter fro claiming it back but they have sent a letter saying I have to go throu Norton Finance as they were the brokers , anyone else same ?

 

and shall I just send norton finance a letter to reclaim it?

 

many thanks

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That be welcome finance then , so back to the drawing board , need to get another letter done and sent to welcome finance , I was gonna send letter to norton finance aswell , should I , or just rewrite back to welcome

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That be welcome finance then , so back to the drawing board , need to get another letter done and sent to welcome finance , I was gonna send letter to norton finance aswell , should I , or just rewrite back to welcome

 

Welcome all the way

 

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  • 1 year later...

does it look all ok ,

been a long battle with them over the past few years ,

got them to take off the ppi on the loan

 

they sent us a new agreement to sign

the new agreement was for the original amount we borrowed

 

, , posted on here a while back re the new agreement they were trying to get us to sign ,

but we never signed it, and haven't made a payment in 3years odd to them ,

not heard anything from them,

fingers crossed,

 

i was thinking maybe the original cca has something up with it ,

it also has mortgage indemnity insurance on it , is this allowed?

and on our credit files its listed as mortgage instead of a loan

 

Hi all , anyone could check my agreement ? does everything look ok on it

 

many thanks

 

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Could anyone check my welcome finance agreement for me

 

as in what charges i could try claim back

 

 

http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/razorcal/media/bWVkaWFJZDozMzUzMjg3/?ref=

 

sorted of tried to do it a whie back 2009 but no joy as they tried to get us to sign new contract less ppi on it but we refused and not really heard done anything since

thanks

 

razorc

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  • 5 years later...

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No that's not how you do it

 

This was explained last time I believe

 

Trouble is welcome now have a wavier

So you'll get nowt

 

Should have done it last time !!

You've now missed the bus I feel

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I doubt the PPI refund was correct

You could try both again

 

See what they say

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 7 months later...

just had letter saying debt sold to coast finance solutions, stopped paying this years ago , could somebody look at our agreement again see if its ok or not

 

 

cheers

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