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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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I am able to collect the documents from a member of the registrar office. They will meet me at reception. The deadline is Thursday.

 

no news on the statements. I will wait or tomorrows post to see if the first aiders statement arrives. If it doesn't I will ask her if I can collect a statement in person. The other statement is from my colleague. I have left a message for her today to call me so I can chase it up. She is young and gets a little intimidated by situations in the workplace.

 

I spoke to a gentleman from registrar on Thursday who assured me I was ok to hand it in by hand. He is a well known person within the company and people will know he has been my contacted.

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That's fine, lets wait and see what tomorrow brings. It's only a question of referencing the appendices when we get them.

 

Stay positive,

 

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Just been the doctors and got a copy of the it or work form. should I scan that one too?

 

Will see if anything has come in the post when I get back. I am confident the first aider will have her statement with me shortly. She is very professional.

 

the duty manager is in today. I have let a message for him to call me.

 

The girl doing the statement has still not contacted me. I don't think she wants to get involved now. Do you think the appeal can be edited a bit for that? She was the only one coming forward to say they sent me home.

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No problem, we'll see where we are this afternoon, and work with what we've got. Don't worry - we have a good appeal in progress - I don't think they'll be expecting such a detailed response!!

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Sorry, yes please do post the doctor's letter on the box.

 

You were awaiting a call from registrar yesterday regarding getting copies of documents for you to collect - did that happen?

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I was thinking that when I read it. I think the detail will really surprise them. ;)

 

I havn't been called by registrar yet, but If I get a call from that duty manager the registrar wont be need to call. I am disappointed the havn't called though. They are supposed to represent me in the company.

 

my scanner is at my dads house. his computer is much faster. I will scan any documents this afternoon, about lunch time.

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That's great - I'll post again when I've read the docs.

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The doctors letter is in the box.

 

I got a call from that duty manager. He is going to get his incident report copied and then he will call me. He was very helpful.

 

I also spoke to a colleague who help with first aid on the day and he is writing a statement which he will have for me in the morning.

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Ok, I've seen the medical certificate - did you actually go back to work on the 27th August?

 

I'd be happier if you handed the appeal in tomorrow, rather than at the last minute. You need to photocopy everything we are sending - is there a library near you where you can use a copier (or does your home printer photocopy?).

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I can get everything photocopied. close of business is 6pm tomorrow. I will get everything photocopied tonight and get it handed in tomorrow.

 

 

They told me not to come in until the day after instead. something about being overstaffed.

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You won't have everything you need tonight will you? you are waiting for the colleague to write a statement and give it to you in the morning.

 

Wait until you have everything together - we still need to edit the appeal document to reference the Appendices (which we don't have all of yet).

 

Let me know as soon as you have the statement and the duty manager's incident report.

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I am meeting my colleague David before work starts tomorrow to get his statement and hopefully the statement from that girl now.Apparently she was nervous about writing it out wrong but David is helping her. The duty manager has been unavailable most of the day in meetings (to be fare he genuinely is one of the busiest people in the company) but I should be able to get his in the morning also.

 

Like you said though, we will wait till the morning. I should have it sorted by 10am. (fingers crossed)

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I have been following this thread since I first came across it. So, DNA, I would like wish you all the best for tomorrow. Poor ell-enn must never leave her computer with all the help she gives everyone.

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DNA, once you have handed in your appeal your employer will write to you informing you of the date your appeal will be heard, who will be hearing your appeal and the place and time.

 

There's not much you can do while you're waiting for a date for the appeal to be heard - other than - stay positive. No appeal is ever a "sure thing" but in my opinion, I think you have a very good case.

 

Should it get to an ET, the tribunal would have to consider, not only if your employer acted reasonably in the circumstances, but also if any reasonable employer would have acted in the same way - and, only in my opinion, your employer did not act reasonably in those circumstances. I know I certainly wouldn't have dismissed someone who had the same absence situation as you!

 

Anyway, lets just get the appeal finalised and handed in, you can relax for a few days then.

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djgordyp, there's many more people on this site who work a lot harder and give much more time than I do - that's what makes this site so fantastic.

This thread has a lot of posts as there was a great deal of background info needed to put together a solid appeal, and DNA has put a lot of energy into collating and providing the relevant information. We should congratulate him on his positive attitude and courage in taking this to an appeal.

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We should congratulate him on his positive attitude and courage in taking this to an appeal.

 

Indeed we should. Recently I had a grievence meeting with our manager and ended up saying very little of what I had intended to. So I can imangine how daunting an appeal hearing would be.

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I have just got back.

 

I only have one statement so far.

 

The duty manager will give his statement provided the head of personal ok's it. That worried me a little. I spoke to the duty manager in person and he says he will call as soon as this happens. I stressed to him I needed to hand in my appeal by 6pm.

 

The girl giving her statement is a definite NO now. She called me this morning to say she was off sick and too ill to sign the statement. I think she got cold feet.

 

When I hand in the appeal do you think I should get written confirmation from the person who takes it as proof I have handed it in?

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