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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
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Hi all

 

To cut a long story short i recieved a train fine some time ago and decided to appeal against it. They fined me £20 plus another £20 for admin charges as the yhad to write to me twice.

 

Anyway as i didnt appeal within the 21 day timescale they are refusing to consider my appeal. They tell me i need to send a cheque in and thats it, case closed.

 

I dont mind paying the penalty fare even though i think this is excessive, however i refuse to pay another £20 for a late/admin charge.

 

Any advice

 

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Hi all

 

To cut a long story short i recieved a train fine some time ago and decided to appeal against it. They fined me £20 plus another £20 for admin charges as the yhad to write to me twice.

 

Anyway as i didnt appeal within the 21 day timescale they are refusing to consider my appeal. They tell me i need to send a cheque in and thats it, case closed.

 

I dont mind paying the penalty fare even though i think this is excessive, however i refuse to pay another £20 for a late/admin charge.

 

Any advice

 

Thanks Marvin

 

Is the "Penalty Fare" definately Penalty.

 

On the Buses its known as the "Standard Fare" payable by anyone who has not purchased a valid ticket or holds a valid pass for the journey.

PUTTING IT IN WRITING & KEEPING COPIES IS A MUST FOR SUCCESS

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It is the standard fare as i boarded the train without a ticket, however what i am quierying is the £20 admin fee they have put on top as i didnt reply to the original letter in time. Can they do this? I mean £20 does seem a bit much.

 

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Send them the 20.00 with a covering letter asking them to give you a breakdown of the 20.00 admin fee.

If they are unwilling or unable to do this then come back and let us know here.

Make sure that all your dealings are done by letter and sent recorded delivery.

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Ok if you are going to do this,then you should let them know within 8 weeks.

This will then stop them from claiming there was an assumption that the matter was concluded and you gave no indications that you were taking things further.

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Hi

Similar story but it gets better - this company issued 20 fine and 20 admin fee aginst my daughter for travelling on First Great Western without a ticket - even though the ticket machine at the station she boarded was not working and she could not find a guard on the train to pay. They took her details at Basingstoke and said she would be fined £20 - noce one 1stGWR - anyway the notive from RPSS has spelled her surname wrong so it is tecnically invalsid(I believe?) also my wife sent a cheque for the full amount which they say has not been recieved - I giess due to postal strike. We have tried to contact thier number but they don't pick up and heres the real humdinger - its an 0870 number which from my virgin media phone is 10p a minute - my wife tried for over two hours.

What do you think I should do now? I will proably refute the calim because it is technically invalid and make a counter claim for the cost of tepelphne charges - what do you think? regards Peter

 

Hi all

 

To cut a long story short i recieved a train fine some time ago and decided to appeal against it. They fined me £20 plus another £20 for admin charges as the yhad to write to me twice.

 

Anyway as i didnt appeal within the 21 day timescale they are refusing to consider my appeal. They tell me i need to send a cheque in and thats it, case closed.

 

I dont mind paying the penalty fare even though i think this is excessive, however i refuse to pay another £20 for a late/admin charge.

 

Any advice

 

Thanks Marvin

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Helloo Everyone..

ii Just Need Help With Something.. ii Got Fined £20 on the spot last time i got on the train from Paddington to Slough... i Paid £10 of it on the spot, and they gave me a receipt, i gave them the wrong address but real name and date of birth, coz they asked for my Oyster card.. the inspector person said that they were going to check my details but he didn't say anything about it being wrong.. Oh and coz im under 18 he asked for my parent/guardian's name to check it.. so i gave the right name..

 

UNFORTUNATELY ii Lost the receipt and now i dont know what to do.. i went to paddington station today to try find out what to do but they said i should send a letter to Revenue Protection Support Services,Freepost P.O. Box 89, Portsmouth, Hampshire, PO1 1YA. i got a cheque for 10 to send with the letter, but i dont know what i should adress the cheque to.. does anyone think that they'll fine me AGAIN, coz the deadline to give the money is 28th October..HELP!!

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Ring up the number on your letter, and talk to them. I did this, and actually had the whole charge dropped.

 

Admitedly in my case they were in the wrong, however when my dad rang them up, the woman didn't actually ask what happened. My dad just explained that the charge was somewhat extortionate, and the lady said that was fine, and dropped the charges. (I still can't believe they were that nice about it to this day).

 

But yea, give them a ring, and see what they say!

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Several things really bug me about this agency:

 

They are very inconsistent with the issuing of penalties. I commute on the train and every day I see guards catch people without tickets and allow them to buy a ticket on the spot. My 18 year old son also commute and having witnessed this general practice, tried it himself one day because the train was in the station and he didn't want to miss it. Guess what: the guard threw the book at him, refusing sell him a ticket or let him get off to buy one, despite the fact that the train hadn't left the station.

 

They are bullies who pick on young people. On another occasion, my son forgot his student railcard, but had a student ticket. Again, he met with an officious response; no sympathy, no leniency (despite his age being a pretty strong indicator of his student status) and a penalty fare.

 

The appeal process is a joke. On both of the above occasions, we have tried to appeal, but it has been a waste of time. All we get are standard responses which take no account of the circumstances or arguments presented and a reminder that extra fees will apply if we don't pay up quickly. On the second occasion, we sent the railcard details as requested within the time allotted, but they claim not to have received them. We appealed, but as above, got nowhere. We didn't send the letter by recorded delivery, so we haven't got a leg to stand on. These guys can't lose. It's a joke.

 

As I understand it, they are a debt collection agency paid for by the train operators. Their operations are approved by the Secretary of State. The problem is that the appeals process is administered by the same group who are no doubt working to penalty targets, so no surprise that my attempts to appeal have on both occasions been dismissed with little or no consideration. I also understand that both the government and the regulator have acknowledged the shortcomings of this situation.

 

So, does anyone have any ideas what can be done to challenge this faceless and seemingly impenetrable agency?

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hi im stuck in a similar position to sm of u guys. i was wondering if some one can give me the fone no for revenue protection support services. my case is a bit extreme, i was racialy assulted by a first great western guard checking tickets and they have given me a £20 plus £20 admin fine. not fairr.

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Hello everyone.

I need an advice.

On 24th of march i was traveling from Enfield Chase to Finsbury Park and i was issued the 20£ penalty fare because i was unable to produce a valid ticket.An authorised collector said that he would send me a letter with penalty fare notice within 1-2 weeks to my adress.I was planning to move out to another house at that time,so I gave him two adresses.

After that I was waiting for this letter to pay my penalty 3 weeks and it still didn't come.Then I moved to another house.

Today after 2 month I received 2 letters from my previous house's landlord,and was shocked to see that Revenue Protection Support Services charged me 40£ and calling me to court for not paying the penalty on time.

But how can I pay it if i didn't even see this letter?Why they didn't use my another adress which i gave them?I been everywhere and no one wants to help me,i've tried to call to RPSS office hudred times but no one pick ups the phone!!That just not fair!My hands are shaking,I don't know what to do!!

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It is the standard fare as i boarded the train without a ticket, however what i am quierying is the £20 admin fee they have put on top as i didnt reply to the original letter in time. Can they do this? I mean £20 does seem a bit much.

 

Thanks Marvin

 

 

I have just recieved a full refund thanks to the help from local MP William Cash who went directly to the engine driver Metaphorically speaking. good luck from Patrick o malley.

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I got a train fine not so long ago, and the conductor made me pay £10 of it there and then. I was really worried because I had no money, and the money I gave him wasn't even mine. The only reason I got the fine was because I couldn't find my rail card.

 

He specifically said to me that I will get my money back as long as I photo copy this receipt (it was a notice not a penalty) and photo copy my rail card to an address (he highlighted it for me). Which I did, the very next day.

 

Today I have received a letter saying that in 15 days if the outstanding balance (£19.60) is not paid by then a further £20 admin charge will be added. I generally do not have any money to spend.

 

I don't feel that I should get my money back because the conductor told me that I definitely would get it back. This is unfair.

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I got a train fine not so long ago, and the conductor made me pay £10 of it there and then. I was really worried because I had no money, and the money I gave him wasn't even mine. The only reason I got the fine was because I couldn't find my rail card.

 

He specifically said to me that I will get my money back as long as I photo copy this receipt (it was a notice not a penalty) and photo copy my rail card to an address (he highlighted it for me). Which I did, the very next day.

 

Today I have received a letter saying that in 15 days if the outstanding balance (£19.60) is not paid by then a further £20 admin charge will be added. I generally do not have any money to spend.

 

I don't feel that I should get my money back because the conductor told me that I definitely would get it back. This is unfair.

 

you need to start your own thread.

 

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I can empathise with a lot of people on here for the treatment they have received by the ''men in black''.

When I travelled without a ticket, there was another woman in the same situation as myself without a ticket. Reaching my destination I told the guy on the exit door I did not have a ticket but would willingly pay as there was no guard on the train to ask. When approaching the ticket window I noticed how the woman who travelled the same journey as me was allowed through but he challenged me. So I challenged as to why he had let the other woman in front of me go when I knew for a fact she had no ticket? Having a noticable accent he then went on to threaten me with a penalty fare. I asked what his problem was with me as I had offered to pay the fare at the window (which was another hurdle!) and was not looking to dodge my train fare? All he could resort to was that it was an offence to travel without a ticket! I stood my ground and argued he was discriminating against me because of what reason? He then ignored this and issued me to pay at the window. I went forward and then was confronted AGAIN with the same problem with the guy behind the counter who had stood and listened to the debate. Who then went on to repeat some of what the guard had said. I immediately asked " what was his problem ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS PAY FOR MY JOURNEY!" I paid for my ticket and went on my way, furious at the way I had been treated. Once home, I wrote a letter of complaint to Southern Railways and provided the POP (proof of payment) for my journey but was questioning why was the treatment I received so OFFENSIVE when I was willing to pay.

 

SOUTHERN RAILWAYS ANSWER was to send me back a leaflet about £20 penalty fare. With a couple of lines stating the matter would be looked into and the guard dealt with by their own internal procedure. I was not convinced by this and knew it was dismissed to the bin.

 

Hence to say that guard is still there today [and he pulls the blind every time he sees me!!!!] LOL!!!

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Hi I dont know if there is much I can do but any help would be great. I have had a problem with the Revenue Protection Support Services. I got on a train at Charing Cross heading to work using my oyster, I had just come from a job interview. My destination was Dartford however I had never travelled this way before as I usually get a bus to work and don't travel from central. However unknown to me was the fact that Dartford is not in the Oyster zone. On arrival I was fined £20 I paid the minimum of £2 on the spot. If I had known it wasn't in the zone I would of paid for a standard ticket. Anyway due to not getting job and working the fine totally slipped my mind. I then went away for just over two weeks. When I returned I had a letter saying that I needed to pay the fine. 3 days later I received another letter telling me I had £20 admin charge on top. I rang them up and they weren't very helpful stating I had to pay the full £38 when I offered to pay the the £18 charge and appeal the admin charge they refused to accept that offer and said I should appeal. I immediately typed a letter and posted it and then posted a 2nd letter a week later. On the 6th May they sent me another letter saying that they had added a second admin charge of £20 and if I didn't pay that I would be taken to court. Then on the 7th they sent another letter saying my appeal of the charges had been unsuccessful, so they charged me again even though I was awaiting the result of my appeal. I have now paid my fine but is there anyway I can report this and try to claim back the admin charges. I acted as they said yet I still got fined and charged £40. On top of that Oyster have taken £6 for the initial journey. I have paid £66 for this £6/ 7 journey. It is absolutely crazy. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Hello and Welcome, Ramya.

 

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