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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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I will do what i can - i need specific Q's though to ans properly. I will also try and scan policy handbook this eve

 

 

Ok here are a few obvious ones we would like answers to.

 

- Are the acceptance fee's charged with interest?

 

- How many PPI claims have been approved by welcome and reloans not just granted everytime someone questions it?

 

- How much is the actual cost of sending a letter out to a customer?

 

- How many cases have you dealt with that are totally un-enforceable?

 

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it is different when the proof is "lost" or deleted. All I know is I felt like crashing my car on the motorway home most nights if it meant I didn't have to go to work in the morning. I have emails, no calls.

I am sorry for how you feel and hope that now you are not working for them you feel better but you can still get them by helping people on this site to get answer to their questions and get your satisfaction and reward that way

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I am sorry for how you feel and hope that now you are not working for them you feel better but you can still get them by helping people on this site to get answer to their questions and get your satisfaction and reward that way

 

 

I will do everything I can to help

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Ok here are a few obvious ones we would like answers to.

 

- Are the acceptance fee's charged with interest?

 

- How many PPI claims have been approved by welcome and reloans not just granted everytime someone questions it?

 

- How much is the actual cost of sending a letter out to a customer?

 

- How many cases have you dealt with that are totally un-enforceable?

 

Stewie

 

Can I also add, what happens when you are selling someone PPI then, ie what are you told to do, and do you offer to lend less to leave room for it?

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I am in no way a legal advisor and only speak from my own experiences and the helpful advice of those in the same boat! :p

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Welcome ruined my life, and I am only 21!!!

Bonus is earnt quarterly up to 24% of their annual wage based on cash collected, 29's Deli (per and asset) and 30's COF

 

Really how .........If they did your amongst friends here............. & can we help you get revenge:mad:

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I will answer these tonight when home but the ans to acceptance fee one is yes. PPI claims approved are done through Direct Group. the charges incurred for letters are now £10, I dont know the company cost. I know per policy only 1 every 3 days is allowed and only allowed to charge once a month. (this is same for calls) I have seen a few unenforcable cases that welcome know are unenforcable but the clients don't.

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I will answer these tonight when home but the ans to acceptance fee one is yes. PPI claims approved are done through Direct Group. the charges incurred for letters are now £10, I dont know the company cost. I know per policy only 1 every 3 days is allowed and only allowed to charge once a month. (this is same for calls) I have seen a few unenforcable cases that welcome know are unenforcable but the clients don't.

 

 

Look forward to chatting this evening and please try and copy as much info as you can and share with us. You will be helping great numbers of people who are battling to even put food on the family table.

 

You are in the right place if you feel this way.

 

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Look forward to chatting this evening and please try and copy as much info as you can and share with us. You will be helping great numbers of people who are battling to even put food on the family table.

 

You are in the right place if you feel this way.

 

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hi andie,stewie,dipply

 

some interesting comments made by gloucs

 

says alot

but not a lot

 

ill wait till tonight and sit in the back round before passing comment

 

interesting point on commission

different to the documentation i have

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for PPI sales there is a script to follow. It is a compliant script, but CAMS do not follow them unless being audited and someone snr is watching.

 

 

As I mentioned before, ,my loan is secured and was done over the phone with PPI attached.

 

I dont recall discussing anything with the operator over insurance.

 

This was done via a broker, do Welcome retain these voice calls done by 3rd party companies??

 

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hi andie,stewie,dipply

 

some interesting comments made by gloucs

 

says alot

but not a lot

 

ill wait till tonight and sit in the back round before passing comment

 

interesting point on commission

different to the documentation i have

 

why are you all hung up on commission? i have proof only bonus was earnt in the branches - The reason why I am being a little vague is that none of you are being particularly pleasant, nor trusting what i actually say! I can prove who I am and eveything if you require but then, how do you prove who you are?? You could also be an employee etc

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why are you all hung up on commission? i have proof only bonus was earnt in the branches - The reason why I am being a little vague is that none of you are being particularly pleasant, nor trusting what i actually say! I can prove who I am and eveything if you require but then, how do you prove who you are?? You could also be an employee etc

If you think how bad you felt doing your job can you not understand how people might feel when they feel they have been treated unfairly and even illegally so it is obvious that people are going to be concerned and want answers for you to prove who you really are. From what I have read on this link people have been fighting a long time with welcome and have managed to get their own information which may differ to yours. But as someone has already said if you are genuine in your offer to help then it is greatly appreciated but dont try and play with peoples emotions. We all want what is fair and to be treated with respect and dignity

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why are you all hung up on commission? i have proof only bonus was earnt in the branches - The reason why I am being a little vague is that none of you are being particularly pleasant, nor trusting what i actually say! I can prove who I am and eveything if you require but then, how do you prove who you are?? You could also be an employee etc

people on here have all had bad experience of wfs thats why we are all on here, you just need to read the post bye everyone to see who is genuine, obviously we would love to trust everyone but there has been a lot of trolls on here, spouting the same compnay bumf, so bear with us if your genuine as yousay you are youre welcome, just trust in any circle takes time :D

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listen people

 

lets be nice

 

please gloucs be totally honest as you could be a value to this thread.

the reason people are hostile is welcome are not liked very much for obviouse reasons

 

 

why ime being cynical is that i myself have unmasked 4 welcome staff posting on the forum for miss=information

 

 

its nothing personel believe me

 

and welcome to the forum

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I will do what I can, I will answer questions if I know the answers. I am sorry but I am still getting over the horror that was welcome. My life is just about returning to some state of normality. I just want to help. perhaps if i detail some of the tactics used, it will help people make effective complaints etc to FSA and Ombudsman and the company themselves??

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I feel terrible as I know I have caused so many peoples lives to be ruined. Hopefully I can give back and help a little (I know that sounds corny) but I was one of the best collectors in south west area, for 2+ years. I got away with the most horrific things and got congratulated for them at work. I know all the tricks they use.... and all against their own policy.

 

ok I'm gonna call a spade a spade here as you know I don't believe you are an ex welcome employee so instead of side stepping around the fact I think we should see the evidence of wrong doing you referred to before that way wo can tell me to shut up.now I'm not being rude but trust has to be earned and any genuine ex employee of this company would s think be well aware of the suspicion you are likely to come under.if I'm wrong I will apologise but as a woman we all know women are never wrong ;)

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gloucs

 

words are just words

 

please google photo bucket to get use to it

 

i feel a lot of posting is going to happen

 

remove any details to link the docs to you

 

sorry if I was harsh guys but I couldn't be bothered to dance around it any longer and I really don't think anyone that hates welcome would mind a put up or shut up. at the end of the day we've all been scrutinized when we joined.

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definately as I am a woman myself I think this will reach a stalemate . what proof do you want? my p45? pictures of hair loss. copies of death certificate for 2 customers that killed themselves because of me?

 

no just the proof of malpractice you spoke about you having in your first few posts will be fine.

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